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National Security Counter-Intelligence Matters
Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 @ 19:38:05 GMT by vlad

Testimonials Dr. Jack Sarfatti writes: On Nov 20, 2004, at 10:54 PM, physicist Tony Smith wrote:

> Jack,
> about the apparent absence of USA black work on dark energy ideas
> similar to yours, you said [to Kit Green retired from CIA]:

> "... The discovery of dark energy 1998-2003 has completely changed the
> picture. None of the people you talk to know anything really deep
> about that. ...".
> I think that you have put your finger on a fundamental problem.

> Compare the Manhattan project under Groves as (in my opinion
> benevolent and necessary) dictator.

I am available for the job. Phil Morrison my Cornell advisor was a
student of Oppie's.
> Back in the late 1930s and early 1940s the person most analogous to
> you today was Lise Meitner. Only she realized that the data from the
> Berlin group meant that uranium could produce sustained nuclear chain
> reactions, just as you realize that dark energy can be useful.

Yes, I am ahead of Mike Turner on that. See his op-ed in Physics Today
April 2003.
> However, there the situations diverge. Here are some very significant
> differences:
> 1 - In the 1930s-40s, some establishment physicists (especially Leo
> Szilard) understood what Lise Meitner was saying, whereas now the
> establishment physicists (including but not limited to people like
> Gross, Ginsparg, Weinberg, Glashow, ... etc ...) are ignorant and
> clueless about what you are saying, and moreover they (probably
> sincerely although very erroneously) consider everything you say as
> totally wrong UFO crackpot idiocy.
> 2 - In the 1930s-40s, the pre-eminent physicsist on earth according to
> popular reputation was Albert Einstein,
> who was smart, open-minded, and commanded the repect even of
> politicians with establishment business connections,
> including then-USA-president Franklin Roosevelt, whereas now the
> pre-eminent physicists according to popular reputation are Steven
> Hawking and Ed Witten, both of whom are not only nowhere near as smart
> as Einstein, but even more importantly are NOT open-minded, being
> blindly addicted to their own pet theoretical constructs (black hole
> physics and superstrings).
> 3 - In the 1930s-40s, there existed at least one high-ranking military
> officer (Groves) who was smart enough to understand the usefulness of
> nuclear chain reactions and ruthless enough to put together and
> control a team of people who could execute the project, whereas now
> (although there are probably mid-level military officers
> capable of doing what Groves did) it may be that the very
> highest-ranking military officers have been too politicized (due to
> stuff from Vietnam to present-day Monday-morning-quarterbacking of
> middle east military activity) to be of the mindset to do what is
> necessary (I hope I am wrong about this point, but I fear that I may
> be accurate).

Take a look at Paul Murad at DIA who runs the STAIF meeting on Advanced
Propulsion to see what the problem is.
> 4 - In the 1930s-40s, Szilard told Einstein about Meitner's ideas, and
> Einstein told Roosevelt, who then (with government control and
> business establishment backing) set up the Manhattan project and
> selected Groves to be its
> benevolent dictator, and the project was a success, whereas, now:
> i - we have no Szilard;
> ii - we have no Einstein;
> iii - we might not even have a Groves.

> Although you seem to be in a position similar to that of Meitner, and
> President Bush might act in a way similar to Roosevelt, factors i, ii,
> and iii explain why the USA black community seems to be lost in the
> dark, unable to do anything beyond having some committees or other
> meet and send memos to each other.

The Black Community listens only to Hal Puthoff on these ideas. Look at
Nick Cook's book.
> Therefore, unless the present situation is corrected soon, it seems to
> me that whichever of Japan/China/Russia wins the race for dark energy
> will rule Earth for the forseeable future, and the USA will become
> just another also-ran backwater.

Indeed, look who published my 43 page paper on the subject. It was an
invited paper BTW.
(http://novapublishers.com/ )"Developments in Quantum Physics" edited
by a distinguished member of the Ukraine National Academy of Science.
As you know that paper is from 2003 and I have already gone way beyond
> In other words, this problem is even greater than such other serious
> problems as control of mid-east oil, trade deficits, consumer debt,
> inflated values of housing, difficulty of paying for entitlement
> programs, etc.
> Tony

Notice Putin's major shift in weapons recently. Of course the Russians
are well aware of what's been going on. There have been TWO articles in
PRAVDA about it already.



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