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    National Security Counter-Intelligence Matters
    Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 @ 19:38:05 GMT by vlad

    Testimonials Dr. Jack Sarfatti writes: On Nov 20, 2004, at 10:54 PM, physicist Tony Smith wrote:

    > Jack,
    > about the apparent absence of USA black work on dark energy ideas
    > similar to yours, you said [to Kit Green retired from CIA]:

    > "... The discovery of dark energy 1998-2003 has completely changed the
    > picture. None of the people you talk to know anything really deep
    > about that. ...".
    >
    > I think that you have put your finger on a fundamental problem.


    > Compare the Manhattan project under Groves as (in my opinion
    > benevolent and necessary) dictator.

    I am available for the job. Phil Morrison my Cornell advisor was a
    student of Oppie's.
    >
    > Back in the late 1930s and early 1940s the person most analogous to
    > you today was Lise Meitner. Only she realized that the data from the
    > Berlin group meant that uranium could produce sustained nuclear chain
    > reactions, just as you realize that dark energy can be useful.

    Yes, I am ahead of Mike Turner on that. See his op-ed in Physics Today
    April 2003.
    >
    > However, there the situations diverge. Here are some very significant
    > differences:
    >
    > 1 - In the 1930s-40s, some establishment physicists (especially Leo
    > Szilard) understood what Lise Meitner was saying, whereas now the
    > establishment physicists (including but not limited to people like
    > Gross, Ginsparg, Weinberg, Glashow, ... etc ...) are ignorant and
    > clueless about what you are saying, and moreover they (probably
    > sincerely although very erroneously) consider everything you say as
    > totally wrong UFO crackpot idiocy.
    >
    > 2 - In the 1930s-40s, the pre-eminent physicsist on earth according to
    > popular reputation was Albert Einstein,
    > who was smart, open-minded, and commanded the repect even of
    > politicians with establishment business connections,
    > including then-USA-president Franklin Roosevelt, whereas now the
    > pre-eminent physicists according to popular reputation are Steven
    > Hawking and Ed Witten, both of whom are not only nowhere near as smart
    > as Einstein, but even more importantly are NOT open-minded, being
    > blindly addicted to their own pet theoretical constructs (black hole
    > physics and superstrings).
    >
    > 3 - In the 1930s-40s, there existed at least one high-ranking military
    > officer (Groves) who was smart enough to understand the usefulness of
    > nuclear chain reactions and ruthless enough to put together and
    > control a team of people who could execute the project, whereas now
    > (although there are probably mid-level military officers
    > capable of doing what Groves did) it may be that the very
    > highest-ranking military officers have been too politicized (due to
    > stuff from Vietnam to present-day Monday-morning-quarterbacking of
    > middle east military activity) to be of the mindset to do what is
    > necessary (I hope I am wrong about this point, but I fear that I may
    > be accurate).

    Take a look at Paul Murad at DIA who runs the STAIF meeting on Advanced
    Propulsion to see what the problem is.
    >
    > 4 - In the 1930s-40s, Szilard told Einstein about Meitner's ideas, and
    > Einstein told Roosevelt, who then (with government control and
    > business establishment backing) set up the Manhattan project and
    > selected Groves to be its
    > benevolent dictator, and the project was a success, whereas, now:
    > i - we have no Szilard;
    > ii - we have no Einstein;
    > iii - we might not even have a Groves.

    > Although you seem to be in a position similar to that of Meitner, and
    > President Bush might act in a way similar to Roosevelt, factors i, ii,
    > and iii explain why the USA black community seems to be lost in the
    > dark, unable to do anything beyond having some committees or other
    > meet and send memos to each other.

    The Black Community listens only to Hal Puthoff on these ideas. Look at
    Nick Cook's book.
    >
    > Therefore, unless the present situation is corrected soon, it seems to
    > me that whichever of Japan/China/Russia wins the race for dark energy
    > will rule Earth for the forseeable future, and the USA will become
    > just another also-ran backwater.

    Indeed, look who published my 43 page paper on the subject. It was an
    invited paper BTW.
    (http://novapublishers.com/ )"Developments in Quantum Physics" edited
    by a distinguished member of the Ukraine National Academy of Science.
    As you know that paper is from 2003 and I have already gone way beyond
    it.
    >
    > In other words, this problem is even greater than such other serious
    > problems as control of mid-east oil, trade deficits, consumer debt,
    > inflated values of housing, difficulty of paying for entitlement
    > programs, etc.
    >
    > Tony

    Notice Putin's major shift in weapons recently. Of course the Russians
    are well aware of what's been going on. There have been TWO articles in
    PRAVDA about it already.

     
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