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    Russian scientists built 'perpetual motion engine' prototype
    Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 @ 18:55:18 GMT by vlad

    Devices From Pravda.ru: 15:15 2005-03-17
    Russian research institute of space systems is developing a "perpetual motion engine" that can be used in spacecraft and ground-based transport alike. "We have been developing the so-called jet ejection-free propulsion device for a few years now," said Valery Menshikov, senior research coordinator of the institute," in his interview to ITAR-TASS news agency. According to Mr. Menshikov, the researchers already built a prototype of the engine of a non-conventional type. He provided some details with regard to the new machine.

    "The prototype device is propelled by the movement of a liquid or solid working body inside the device. The working body moves on a trajectory resembling a tornado. As regards the effect produced by the experiment, we might as well witness a new phenomenon involving the interaction between the working body and some fields, possibly a gravity field. The nature of those fields is still have to be determined," said Mr. Menshikov.

    Researchers say that service life of the next-generation engine will be 15 years at the least. It is said to be capable of undergoing nearly 300 thousands start-ups. The engine is powered by solar batteries. Russian researchers believe that the engine will be used not only for orbit control and correction purposes at the space vehicles and space stations.

    "In the future this environment-friendly engine may be also used in the aircraft and ground transport," said Mr. Menshikov.

    Source: http://newsfromrussia.com/science/2005/03/17/58692.html



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    Re: Russian scientists built 'perpetual motion engine' prototype (Score: 1)
    by vlad on Sunday, March 20, 2005 @ 18:58:20 GMT
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    Michael_dean_jr writes (greenglow yahoo group):

    Isn't perpetual motion observed as the dynamic nature of the universe as a whole? Guess not, if we're looking at it as a "phrase", as two words combined and not considered as the phrase, then the universe is indeed, in perpetual motion. It would appear that a perpetual motion (words only, not the phrase) system can only exist within an infinite system, but that's not in line with the definition of the phrase; anything observed emulating perpetual motion within a sum of finite space would be "empowered" within some connective to that same infinite whole, be it solar, "ZPE tap", gravity, magnetism, nuclear, or what have you, as all are simply differing collectives of action/flux.

    Let's look at this screwy "definition" of the "phrase".

    Perpetual motion, the hypothetical continuous operation of an isolated mechanical device or other closed system without a sustaining energy source.

    A couple key things to keep in mind here, an "isolated" or other "closed" system, where the hell did they come up with that; certainly, neither perpetual nor motion contain the meaning of "closed" or "isolated" some dipstick slipped that in, likewise, without a sustaining energy source? Without a sustaining energy source... that in itself is rubbish, everything is "energy", this means that perpetual motion cannot be a "device" as any device is composed of sustaining energy. I'm sorry, but that definition makes no sense and discredits its own governing position.

    It would appear that the "definition" of the phrase has scuttled the possibility from the get go. Not even the universe qualifies within the definition as the universe is not a "closed" nor is it an "isolated" system, nor does it operate without sustained energy. What a joke.

    I think most people look at the words and what they mean as two simple words combined, and that has a different meaning than what has been stupidly defined by someone who didn't pay attention to what the words actually meant; by themselves and then combined, they make sense.

    Let's just make a new "phrase" so we can do away with the rubbish as defined within the obviously made dead phrase.

    Let's try this;

    Semi permanent action, Actions commencing within a device or system derived directly from some action of the universe, without a necessity to de-potential carried or connected pre stored fuels/energy of fabricated potentials. The starting of this type of action need not be of a semi permanent action source. It merely needs to sustain its actions through the processing of naturally occurring and available "energy".

    Now we can have/create a "Semi permanent action device" and the sun qualifies as a source for these actions as does "ZPE" etc. There's no hypothetical about it, these devices already exist, solar panels, etc.

    Some sort of energy is necessary, obviously, but the "fuel/potential" needs to be naturally available where ever the "device" may be expected to operate and the device needs to process the naturally available energy without destroying itself in the process. All of this is under "reasonable" considerations; obviously just about everything built will wear out or become spent within time.

    Doesn't that help out some, that may be what they meant and I think that's what a lot of folks are thinking when they claim "perpetual motion", unfortunately the stupid definition of "perpetual motion" disembowels anything that could occur in factual reality. The "definition" of the phrase is pure rubbish, but, the underlying notion or combinations of words when defined under their own individual merits are sound.

    BTW. what kind of moron would accept the definition of the phrase, "perpetual motion" as a sound and reasonable assessment of what perpetual motion actually means? Think about it, where was reason applied within the definition, does it remotely resemble the words as defined within their own merits?

    Why can't perpetual motion simply mean what the two words together imply, why restrict them beyond reasonable consideration and then claim them as a "hypothetical" thing? It would appear that science is in the business of creating phrases and terms from words that have tangible meanings and then defining them into pure rubbish that emulate pure twisted fictions.

    This goes beyond semantics and becomes a matter of intelligence vs. mental retardation, the term nerd really strikes hard within the definition of "perpetual motion", someone had a bit of tape hanging from their glasses in front of the whole definition of each word "perpetual" and "motion" and then a brain fart occurred in that greasy un-showered head and it slipped in the words "closed" and "isolated" and "without sustained energy" (BTW the last three quotes are also found in the word nerd as defined). For god sakes, I swear, this crap really disappoints me and removes any hope I might have in "modern science". What a waste of time, we need to pull federal financing of the sciences ASAP! This stuff disgusts me, Damn idiots!



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