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XSF and the XS-NRG Prize (Executive Summary)
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 @ 20:00:21 GMT by vlad

Testimonials Unfortunately, the energy crisis is real. It is now widely accepted that the crisis is about to reach the critical point when only a “miracle” can turn the situation around and get us out of the “mess”-- a mess in which our lazy complacency with our own energy technology has pushed us into.

Fortunately we can buy some time by stepping up conservation efforts and by deploying more and improving on existing (some quite old) clean alternative energy technologies such as solar, wind, geothermal, hydro and ocean wave, etc., switching to cleaner burning fuels such as hydrogen, biofuels, etc., or building improved nuclear reactors, fuel-cells and so on.

Well understood from a scientific and technological point of view, these "evolutionary" developments are necessary to start removing our society from the present addiction to fossil fuels, but none of them represent the quantum-leap clean energy revolution we need to avoid major problems in the near future and guarantee a sustainable development of human civilization for generations to come.

I have examined the “exotic” energy research community for a number of years, with a very open mind but a critical eye. Somebody well said that "an open mind is like an open window...without a good screen you'll get all sorts of weird bugs". I strongly believe that open-mindedness is the hallmark of good science and that central to good scientific practice is the assessment of evidence, even when this assessment may challenge the current scientific paradigm -- the prevailing set of assumptions about how the world works. Certainly, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but the process of acquiring this evidence has proven to be anything but open and easy.

The claimed extraordinary performance of a small number of more or less complex but ingenious non-conventional energy devices remain to this day to be properly confirmed by science and, if proven real, their unusual functioning adequately explained.

The Xtreme Science Foundation (XSF) and the Xcess Energy (XS-NRG) Prize

There is little doubt that some degree of “suppression” of disruptive technologies for economic and/or “national security” reasons is officially happening through the patent office and the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951. There may be valid reasons to delay (not deny!) the immediate release of such revolutionary technologies to the public. But both science and the general public need to know the truth now since, if any one of these claims proves to be real, there is still much work to be done to catch up with the supporting theory and, with the developmental research usually needed to bring these discoveries to the market. The history of science shows that any particular area of breakthrough research can wander randomly with little progress until the correct theory is identified. When it is, then, there is an explosion of progress in that field because a coordinated effort with many contributors becomes feasible. Given the current global crisis conditions, allowing “random wondering” of potentially Earth saving breakthrough research is wrong and does not have to/should not happen, given such easy access to information we all benefit from these days with the advent of the global Internet.

Until science can examine the evidence, through an objective, widely recognized validation process, the verdict on the reality of such technologies is still out there. That uncertainty is exactly what the Xtreme Science Foundation (XSF) and its Xcess Energy (XS-NRG) Prize award will try to remove, with the help of science and all of the responsible people and organizations out there.

By proving or disproving such extraordinary claims, XSF will:

  • Help remove the uncertainty -- in the public’s mind and among scientists -- surrounding these devices and, consequently, clean up and speed up the identification and recognition of real, valuable and so much needed breakthrough research in the energy field,
  • Protect the public against false claims (fraudulent or not) by XSF becoming a prerequisite test to pass for any such technology before soliciting investment,
  • Contribute to leveling the playing field for every inventor (today, maverick inventors struggle outside the mainstream of funding and acknowledgment) by providing everybody with the right to an honest, objective scientific validation of their claims,
  • Encourage out of the box thinking to resolve the great problems we’re facing in our struggle to safeguard a decent future for humankind and all life on Earth by rewarding positive accomplishments with a substantial monetary prize, without any other strings attached to the inventor’s IP or the future development of the invention.
Progressive organizations and the general public are invited to support the XSF and the XS-NRG prize in any way they can. Pledged funds will accumulate for a predetermined time (two years, for example) in an escrow account managed by a reputable financial institution. If the legal conditions for awarding the XS-NRG Prize are not met after the established time period for validation is up, the donors can either withdraw their pledged money (most of), or leave them there for the next award cycle. An agreed upon small prorated percentage from the accumulated prize funds will be transferred to the XSF’s operating fund and be used to cover all expenses incurred with the validation process. Funds will be managed openly, and important decisions will be voted democratically by the XSF members and major supporters.

Criteria for winning the XS-NRG prize

Inventors who have a working prototype device of a fuel-less energy generator are invited to apply. Fuel-less means: the generator does not need any conventional fuel for continuous operation beyond what is required for start-up (batteries, super-capacitors or other type of energy storage devices that are alternatively charged and discharged by the device itself during operation, are allowed). The test procedures and passing criteria will be clearly defined and agreed upon with the inventor and the testing entities.

Classes of technologies targeted for the first XS-NRG Prize cycle are primarily electro-magnetic, electro-static or plasma-based "open systems" capable of tapping the vacuum/zero-point/cosmic/ambient energy fields for useful power, with a coefficient of performance (COP) greater than one. These are considered Over-Unity devices (O/U) because, apparently, they put more power out than the operator puts in, by tapping into a yet to be recognized (by the main-stream science) ubiquitous and very dense source of potential energy (such as the quantum vacuum or the so called Zero-Point energy fields, etc.). There are many other types of alleged O/U devices that should be worth investigating, and the XSF will deal with them as well, but, I believe the greatest chance for success and the most societal and scientific benefit will come from examining first those mentioned above.

Candidates must agree to the wide publication of the test results, but nothing else. The fund will cover all their validation-phase expenses. The winner(s) will receive the financial prize (between $1 million to $10 million is the goal, depending on accumulated funds) with no strings attached, i.e. no requirement for release of IP secrets or commitments to go with certain investors to bring the technology to market, etc. The discovery will get widespread media exposure (and the inventor(s), if (s)he/they want it) which, I hope, should also help protect against potential suppression. What the winners do with their newly acquired status and wealth is up to them (the XSF could certainly help, if solicited).

This approach was chosen after the historical failure of other attempts to bring “free-energy” to the people, either through offering substantial prizes to inventors, but with strings attached, or, through the altruistic (but unrealistic) open-source route. Both these strategies were (still are) not able to attract those inventions that the XSF is targeting for validation. I invite them to join forces with the XSF so we can accomplish sooner than later our common goal of breaking the ice for the revolution in the theory and application of breakthrough new energy research.


XSF is envisioned as a not-for-profit organization [501(c) tax exempt status in the US, for example]. Its only mission is to carry out independent, objective, unbiased and widely accepted scientific validation of "private research" in the field of new energy technologies (for now) -- research that the present scientific community and media would otherwise consider an unacceptable departure from the conventional thinking. It will also award the Xcess-Energy Prize (XS-NRG) according to well defined winning criteria.

Proposed Motto: "Supporting people and organizations willing to move beyond what they believe to be possible".

An elected/confirmed board of directors should form the operating committee and adopt its bylaws. The proposed structure (minimal/key positions) of the operating committee could be as follows:

  • General Manager (GM) Main Role: coordinate and facilitate the activity of all the directors to accomplish the foundation’s goal over the assessment/validation cycle. Should be a well recognized personality with a strong believe in the foundation’s mission. Preferably is the spokesperson for the foundation.
  • Director(s) “Technology Assessment” (DTA) (better three: one for the Americas, one for Europe and one for Asia) -- preferably well recognized scientists (maybe FE skeptics) Main Role: manage the Technical Assessment Specialists (members of the XSF or not) from all over the world (or the region, in case of three directors). Coordinate the validation procedure with the inventor and the testing labs/institutions and ensure the process is scientifically sound and fair. Document the validation process and the results for publication and the XS-NRG prize awarding.
  • Director Finance and Legal (DFL) Main Role: manage the relation with the banking institution offering the escrow account service and manage the foundation’s own operating account. Ensure all legal aspects related to the operation of the foundation are properly covered by legal council.
  • Director “Media Relations” (DMR) Main Role: manage the important media link (advertising and fund-raising campaign, publication of test results, etc.) and maintain foundation’s website (IT)    (The site name  XtremeScienceFoundation.org has been secured).

All the progressive individuals and organizations that could, in one way or another, contribute to the success of the XS Foundation’s mission are being invited to join. The most important ones and their response to this invitation will be listed on the foundation’s web-site.

The Technical Assessment Specialists (TAS) will be the “work horses” of the foundation’s most important activity: finding and first hand evaluating of potential candidate technologies for the XS-NRG prize cycle. These people must have a solid technical background and communication skills to be able to perform efficiently. I hope that once XSF is properly advertised in the media, those genuine inventors not afraid of testing their devices will come to us (not the other way around).

The XSF should try to contact as many as possible of the major Technical Universities that could provide laboratories able to carry out the validation process. Ideal would be to convince these labs to join the XSF and, initially, volunteer to do the testing for such revolutionary technologies. If that may be possible for the first prize cycle when awareness of the XSF is growing and the prize funds accumulate for the first time, once the foundation has sufficient operating funds, it is expected that most/all such services to be properly paid for. I have the same expectation for many other services (such as banking, legal, advertising etc.) that we might obtain for free for the start-up period, before sufficient funds accumulate in the operating account. Certainly, having a generous initial sponsor would be better and make the "birth pain" easier.


XSF, like any other "non-profit" organization, can be operated by either volunteers and/or paid positions. In time, some members could eventually become employed full time once the operating funds reach the required level for proper compensation. It is not envisioned the need for significant non financial assets to be accumulated by the foundation since most of the work can be done by volunteers (in the beginning) and/or contracted out, once operating funds become available.

It would be ideal to find an initial sponsor to help with foundation's start-up. But even without much initial funding, the XSF can still be constituted by a few courageous, visionary people who would consider the cause worthwhile to volunteer their time and skills in the start-up phase. Compensation will come later, once the XSF and the idea behind it are well known (world-wide) and the fund-raising campaign starts giving results. Essentially, all contributors should be paid from the future accumulated operating funds, so everyone on the team is motivated to see the foundation succeed (since operating funds are % of the $ accumulated in the escrow “prize” account). We need people who have experience in such “unusual” start-ups like the XSF is envisioned to be. If you know such capable individuals/organizations who may want to take this challenge, please pass this information to them.

A professionally designed website is essential to all aspects of the XSF constitution and operation. It is estimated that such a site would cost less than $5,000 to design and implement. A webmaster (IT professional) needed to operate and maintain the site and its database is also required (but he/she can be a volunteer during the start-up phase). In the “member recruitment” period, a mock-up website that would explain the XSF/XS-NRG Prize concepts to a target audience may be sufficient. Most of the work in this stage (member recruitment) can be conducted by phone and e-mail, and requires mostly time and communication skills from the XSF founders.

Individuals and organizations promoting powerful and efficient open source Content Management Systems (such as Francisco Burzi, the PHP-Nuke creator, the Mambo Foundation, etc.) are invited to be among the founders of the Xtreme Science Foundation and take the very important task of professionally building and operating/maintaining the XSF site, the organization’s access point and window to the world.


More information on how the idea for the Xtreme Science Foundation came to be and some of my attempts to convince others to join me in the effort to make it happen, can be found in some posts and comments on the main site (search for "XSF"), in the "Special Sections/Xtreme Science Foundation" module of ZPEnergy.com:
and in some more or less recent "Surveys" as well: http://zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=Surveys

There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that, one day, humans will harness, for all their power needs, the vast, dynamic sea of energy that constitutes the fabric of space-time continuum of our material Universe. By proposing the Xtreme Science Foundation project, my intention was/is to bring that day closer.

Ordinary people as well as every genuine scientist must wake up and understand/admit that revolutionary new ideas and breakthrough discoveries are not, and have never been, the exclusive privilege of the academics and the institutionalized science/research groups ... more so these days when access to information and expertise is a “mouse-click” away. Brilliant people are popping up all over the world and we have the opportunity to hear about them and the chance to learn from them and their work almost instantly, through this marvelous world empowering information exchange tool: the Internet’s World Wide Web. This new, vast intellectual resource should be used by all of us like a “distributed brain power”, to resolve the most pressing human, scientific and technological problems we face (same as some projects that require huge computational resources decided to use the idle time of many processors located in PC all over the world to better, faster and more efficiently accomplish their goal). That’s what the Xtreme Science Foundation was envisioned to facilitate, starting with our pressing energy problems, and, why not, extending in time, to other so called “fringe-science” domains such as alternative medicine, gravity control research, exotic chemistry, paranormal phenomena, etc. It will be searching for any valuable truth in a sea of skepticism, instead of waiting for it to surface on its own (history proved, sometimes that can take generations).

This is my proposal as I see it now, but I’ll be happy if some people like the concept, change it for better and “run with it” to make a difference. Please pass this post to all those who you feel may be interested to read it: scientists and Universities, media and Internet discussion lists, IT people and organizations, bankers and lawyers, corporations - as possible sponsors, politicians, etc., any other progressive entities capable of seeing the urgency and the potential huge benefit of such an organization for the rapid advancement of human knowledge. All comments are welcomed (use Feedback – info at zpenergy.com – if necessary). Thank you.

Best wishes and best of luck to all of us.


"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,  committed people can change the world;  indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead, anthropologist



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Re: XSF and the XS-NRG Prize (Executive Summary) (Score: 1)
by sterlingda on Monday, October 06, 2008 @ 10:39:58 GMT
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Hi Vlad,

I saw your "Executive Summary" posted yesterday at:

Congratulations on taking this step.

I have a few comments and questions.

First, some questions.

You talk about a $1 to $10 millionaward for the XS-NRG Prize. One might assume in the context of its first mention that at least $1 million is already available; but reading further down it seems that this is still all just an idea, and that little or no money has been raised for the prize. How much is in the kitty now?

Second question: how far along are you in establishing some kind of guiding body for this initiative?

I would like to recommend that you open up the website and just make part of the http://XtremeScienceFoundation.org [xtremesciencefoundation.org]website password protected. It seems to me that with announcing this initiative that there should also be some kind of web presence where people can go to read more, sing up, donate, or otherwise get involved.

In your account you say that the XSF will "Contribute to leveling the playing field for every inventor (today, maverick inventors struggle outside the mainstream of funding and acknowledgment) by providing everybody with the right to an honest, objective scientific validation of their claims". While this sounds noble and fair, it doesn't come across as being practical. That phraseology needs some kind of a caveat.

We at PES/NECare constantly beingapproached about new ideas, nearly daily. There is no way we could possibly test every single one of these. That would be a waste of money, resources, time. There must be a screening process -- which is what the NEC is doing. About 1-2 times a month, we encounter an exotic technology claim that seems legit, and we then hone into a process of validating as prerequisite to assisting; yet so far we have not yet found anything legitimate.


Here are a few wording suggestions or things I noticed that you might want to rephrase or fix:

Contradiction in wording: "Its only mission is to carry out independent, objective, unbiased and widely accepted scientific validation of "private research" in the field of new energy technologies (for now) -- research that the present scientific community and media would otherwise consider an unacceptable departure from the conventional thinking. It will also award the Xcess-Energy Prize (XS-NRG) according to well defined winning criteria."

This wording needs clarification: "An agreed upon small prorated percentage from the accumulated prize funds will be transferred to the XSF’s operating fund and be used to cover all expenses incurred with the validation process." You might give a ballpark percentage so people have some kind of idea of the level of overhead that will be involved -- something that is expected of any initiative.

typo "can bee operated"

what do you mean by: "Essentially, all contributors should be paid from the future accumulated operating funds, so everyone on the team is motivated to see the foundation succeed (since operating funds are % of the $ accumulated in the escrow “prize” account)."

Overall, my general impression of the XSF initiative is as follows. I see two objectives you are tackling: 1) validate, 2) award. It seems to me that the New Energy Congress is already established and doing a pretty good job of validating, within our limited budget. I don't know of any other public (open) body that is doing what we are doing in that regard. Rather than reinvent that portion of the initiative, you ought to use the NEC to perform that function, and focus on the second thing: collecting prize money and granting the prize. And even there, it seems to me that that second portion is something that the New Energy Congress could also administer.

It's within our mission scope and talent base, if it is plausible.

Before you get too critical of the NEC, bear in mind that there are a log of things that happen off-list that you don't know about. A lot of the vetting and screening and support initiatives happen privately, both by myself and by other NEC members.

In today's economically tight climate, I don't think you're going to have much success pulling in donations for a prize like this. If people are going to contribute something, they'll probably contribute to Greer's initiative which has more of a reputation for this kind of work and body of well-known support.

Rather than shoot for a million or more dollars for this prize, we could make it a prize for whatever has been accumulated, awarded it once a year.

The NEC is already in the business of vetting and ranking technologies. It would be a natural fit for us to recognize each year one technology that in our best estimation is the best "XS-NRG" modality.

We could even give the award without monetary backing if none is available, just for the sake of giving recognition to those who deserve it.

This would help us stay abreast of those cutting-edge technologies which aren't far enough along to warrant inclusion in the Top 100, but which are nevertheless revolutionary and potentially promising. And it would help them get the attention they deserve, to hopefully attract the funding, business expertise, and other things needed to help move them forward.

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Re: XSF and the XS-NRG Prize (Executive Summary) (Score: 1)
by vlad on Sunday, October 12, 2008 @ 23:49:29 GMT
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On Oct. 9, 2008, New Energy Congress advisor, Chris Patton wrote: (my answers in Italics. Vlad)

You nailed it Sterling.

Its pretty simple...

Chris, it is not simple at all! I wouldn't have asked you (all of you in NEC/NEM) for help if that was the case.

If Vlad has that much confidence in his idea he should go out and find a sponsor for his prize. It's not a new idea or even an original idea since there are "X-prizes" out there already... its a shiny new name for a well worn concept.

"X-prizes" ?... "Aero-award"?... (for Quantum Green Prize couldn't find anything on the net) ... they have very little in common with the XSF/XS-NRG prize concept (oh yes, the name does have a capital X in it ...maybe you find it the same as the XXX-Prize, eh?). Yes, all of them target FE inventors and their devices, but the way XSF do it (and the reason for doing it) and the funding system for the XS-NRG prize are COMPLETELY different!

To say that XSF/XS-NRG prize (as proposed), is not a new/original idea but "a shiny new name for a well worn concept" is either misinformation, if you haven't read at all the XSF proposal, or a deliberate lie if you have (since you don't have to be a genius to understand it).

Welcome to the real world of packaging and hard work where you have to solicit people with your "amazing" idea and show them how their portfolio will benefit from whatever technology drops down the pipeline. You either have to go Philanthropist or Investor and let me tell you something...you'll need a pretty extensive/expensive plan for either one. These don't package themselves.

Except for "hard work" everything else you wrote is IRRELEVANT to the XSF. Not everybody thinks with their "portfolio" Chris (unfortunately many do, since that's why the US is where it is). And you're wrong again scaring people you need "extensive/expensive plans" for a smart idea done in the right way at the right time ... It's Internet age, remember?...check The Million Dollar Homepage" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Million_Dollar_Homepage [en.wikipedia.org]) ... voila! It will cost you $5K to do the XSF/XS-NRG Prize page professionally ... you could be famous and make enough money out of it to retire happy since you'll leave a better world behind...but you'll pass, and return to ... whatever more important, portfolio fattening things you're doing.

We may have one overseas called the "Quantum Green Prize" that I've been pushing for a year. I've taken this idea through the television studio route and its a tough package to sell without a built in sponsor. I'll let you know if it hits but I wouldn't get too excited.

As I see the NEC's duty as being accurate information dissemination I fail to see how it falls onto our collective heads offer prizes or cash for anything.

Vlad you have an fine idea...don't expect anyone but you to carry through on it.

Good Luck!

Thank you. Good luck to you too.

Gentlemen, I'm getting tired of this. I had my "Murphy's War" and I lost. If the NEC was a "sting operation" from the beginning, and even if it was hijacked after Sterling came up with the idea, I have to take my hat off before those who planned and executed this mission. Trapping a bunch of dedicated people from getting too close to trigger an energy revolution too soon, by getting them stuck in the perfectly legitimate, noble (and lucrative, he, he ;-) quest for alternative energy, AND making it look that THEY want it, was a brilliant strategy. Those who started like me, and are still like me deep down, must know they have a formidable vested interest force to fight with, and a deep trance to wake up from. "The force" would cleverly use weaknesses present, more or less, in all of us: ego, greed and fear ... and they continue to win since there are very few of us who are immune to the spell ;-(.

Since this is Canadian Thanksgiving, I want to thank you all for the interesting things I've learned from you, and congratulate you for the good job you're doing for the alternative energy movement. I go back to my family and my real turkey, cause I'm fed-up with yours.

This is my last "occasional" entry here. Sterling, please remove me from the NEC membership effective immediately.


Re: XSF and the XS-NRG Prize (Executive Summary) (Score: 1)
by Mar1 on Monday, October 13, 2008 @ 15:11:44 GMT
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Vald, your idea is great and I hope it truly does succeed, ignore all though who don't wish you well and just go for it. Quoting Tesla, “Throughout space there is energy, is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain: if kinetic and this we know it is for certain, then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.” There’s nothing like a little word from the man to perk up one’s positive energy, good look Vald.

Does the Goverment really want new cheep energy (Score: 1)
by vlad on Thursday, October 23, 2008 @ 22:48:24 GMT
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Sent by NAG: To: Vald for what it worth.

You energy program idea is great and needs to be done but the results will be the following:
For those of you that think that the government wants a new energy source !  You would be VERY WRONG…!  They only want a new source if it uses OIL COAL or GAS.

If its Nuclear or ZPEnergy or Fusion…. You are out in left field. There is no money for future energy in these fields and they are off limits to the normal person or corporations on the street.

You are going to ask why…. Is this so?  Well it goes back to economics … global economics… you just saw what a 6% drop in house prices and what it did the stock market.

Just think what a 50% reduction in energy prices would do to the world economics.

Don’t get me wrong the government wants the technology; they just don’t want to pay for it or pay you for it.

To give you an idea how the government does this … tie up game.  You will submit a new patent they will look at it and woo and aww over it and then it gets lost of postponed in the patent office. The CIA and other government agencies start getting their hand into it and before you know you are running around in circles thinking you are making headway only to find out at a later date … the government has had you all tied up all along through its vast inelegance agencies.

If you think I am kidding I am not!

The story gets better… Lets say you find a big investor that has the money! Wow you just added some points to the he / she ingenious list on the governments side and what are we going to do about them now.

So at that point the government goes to the investor or who’s providing the money and says, oh yes you can’t have any foreign investor in the company or people that can’t get security clearances can’t be investors.

And then it hits you only the government can build this device and they are calling the shots!  If you don’t like it that’s just tough, you’re going to have to take what they give you.

All you read and more has happened to Executive Engineering’s Nuclear Accelerated Generator  (Atomic Battery).

ZPEnergy is a great web site but take my word on this the goverment controls all energy and putting up a prize my sound good but the result if acheaved will by like mine.


David Weber / President
P.S. Too smart for my own good!

Re: Is the XSF Really necessary? (Score: 1)
by Freedomfuel on Monday, December 15, 2008 @ 13:10:41 GMT
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I understand why Vlad feels that efforts to find radical solutions to the impending environmental and fuel depletion crisis are imperative, but private initiatives like XSF and the Orion Project are not necessary.  Engineers have been toiling away for decades in military research institutes to perfect free energy and other exotic energy technologies.  They started with crude magnet motors in the 1940s and have progressed to the point where they have been able to produce the cool running MHD generator using heavy water as a fuel that Richard Boylan has disclosed at his website.  Anything you can think of they have done already and they can do it better than you.  They have also done things that civillian researchers have not thought of, and which would amaze you.  This is confirmed by UFO abductees who have described the interior of UFOs as Alladins caves of extraordinary technology.  You should also take into account that these are the only people qualified to resolve the safety issues around things like magnet motors.

They have not spent billions developing UFO technology in order to keep it hidden away for ever.  There are complex and difficult issues around free energy that have prevented it from being released to the public till now.  In general it is the case that this technology has been kept secret to protect the safety of the public rather than special interests as most people believe.  The US government officials who have decided to maintain the secrecy have done so after balancing the possible risks and rewards using information not available to the public.  They understand that the release of free energy technology to the public could resolve China's acute air pollution problem caused by the burning of fossil fuels.   Although it may seem heartless to deny to the Chinese people something that could prevent 350,000 people dying every year from air pollution related diseases they have to take into account the fact that free energy is as scary and dangerous as nuclear energy, it can easily be turned into a weapon and it is difficult to manage.  Unleashing something like this into the world is not a decision to be taken lightly.  If  it is introduced before the world is ready for it may have the effect of opening a Pandora’s box.  As long as governments have a choice they will naturally choose the less risky alternative.  The Chinese, for instance, have the option of cleaning up their emissions and going nuclear at the expense of paying more for their electricity.  In my opinion the world is not facing a crisis that could justify the risk of giving the public something powerful enough to replace all fossil and nuclear fuels.  There are, however, free energy technologies in government labs that do not need to be classified and which could be released to the public, but they may not have much cost advantage over conventional renewables.  You may regard these as transitional technologies whose introduction would not be so disruptive.

Ultimately, something with so much potential to do both harm and good requires universal peace before it can be introduced.  In the mean time the strategy appears to be using energy conservation and renewables to buy time untill Islamic militancy burns itself out.  Peace will not come to Africal and the middle east untill China becomes the sole superpower, but in the meantime there are going to be major upheavals in the world as the US empire falls.  The concern within the US government intelligence agencies seems to be that free energy should not be introduced during this crisis period as it would only make things worse.


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