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    Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment
    Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 @ 16:14:06 GMT by vlad

    Science From TheRanchConsortium@yahoogroups: Hello Group,

    I usually don't write to groups, but am a mere reader of interesting ideas.....Just for inspiration for my work as a "normal" physicist. Regarding the lasted discussions I would like to contribute an experiment that gives potential food for thought for you all. Comments are welcomed.

    Best regards from Germany,

    Carl R. Jachulke

    Experiment conducted by von Martin Grusenick:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0d7o8X2-E&feature=related

    Comments:

    Bob Brown
    writes: I have said this in personal conversation with Bill, but I will repeat it here for the benefit of all the other readers.  The traditional ommission of torque from the treatment of general relativity is usually excused on the grounds that its effects are so small as to usually be beyond the experimental error.  Unfortunately, this leads many to always omit this term.  This seems reasonable, since it greatly complicates the mathematics, and contributes such a small effect to the final result as to really be just an untidy mathematical nuissance.

    But doing so it to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak!

    Without torque, all the traditional conservative fields are truly conservative -- meaning they have a path independent curve integral.  But when you introduce torque, the vector addition becomes path independent, and it may literally take or consume different amounts of energy to go from point a to point b depending upon the route that one takes.  Torque causes all the conservative fields to become non-conservative.

    First off, this breaks most of traditional physics, so the traditionalists reject this approach.  Second, the mathematics is extremely more complicated, which makes analytical results harder to obtain.

    But thirdly, it opens the door to extracting free energy because if you take a path that has a net positive difference from the path taken by your surrounding environment, then you have extracted energy from the vacuum.

    I like to make the analogy that this is like sailing a sailboat, in that the wind blows in one direction, and the keel forces the boat in another direction, resulting in the extraction of free energy.  The amount extracted is so small compared to what is available that you cannot notice that the sailboat had any effect upon the weather.  It did, of course, but it was negligable.  We likewise could very well extract free energy by exploiting these torsion/torque effects.

    Bob Brown
    -------------------------------

    Bill Alek
    writes: Hello Martin and Carl,

    Given this fascinating experiment and some thought about more experimentation, I suggest trying the first "rotating" experiment with one of the axes extended vertically? I "bet" a preverbal "dollar to a donut", though a donut is worth more than a dollar these days and my fiancée Aurora won't let me eat donuts, that we'll see a moving interference pattern upon rotation. This, I think, is the REAL breakthrough! The second experiment with gravity (i.e., torque field) can be explained by the Pound-Rebka-Snyder Experiment.

    As demonstrated in the first experiment, there is no "torque" in the horizontal dimension or axes, however, if one of the axes were set vertical, I think we would see a moving interference pattern upon rotation. In other words, torque is vectored vertically, which is rather extraordinary. This would vindicate Podkletnov's spinning superconductor experiment and provide a means of measuring the torque field.

    Bill
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    Re: Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment (Score: 1)
    by Prophmaji on Saturday, September 12, 2009 @ 17:40:42 GMT
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    A comment I made quite some time ago, is that the earth's gravitational field is a 'polarized oriented gradient'. There is also a 3d  vectoral aspect to it.

    as matter, in this example, WATER MOLECULES falls through this polarized oriented gradient that is in constant motion..we get the opposing 3-d spin, or the spinning of the water down the drain. The water MUST form along the lines of the energies that area acting upon it. Thus the water spiralling down the drain.

    To escape gravity you need a 3-d rotational field in MOTION, in opposition to that field.

    Thus the Nazi Bell experiment that came from the antigravity Indian mercury torus of legend in the Rig Veda. Read Joseph Farell's book 'The SS Broterhood of the Bell'.

    it really is that simple.

    If you think of the field that surrounds Hammel's spinners and the fields they produced and the electrical systems that surrounded them that failed (any nearby electrical gear-note same effect with UFO's)....and go to Hutchison's experiments....well..there it is...right in front of you.


    Also note that the story is that lasers screw up UFO's and cause them to crash. how? their rotation goes out of sync with the earth's field, and they can't get it back fast enough to stop from crashing.

    Once you understand all that, then you will know where the 2.2 Trillion missing dollars at the pentagon went and why the US gov wants Gary Mckinnon so badly ---as he saw the actual duty rosters for the offworld fleet.



    Re: Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment (Score: 1)
    by ElectroDynaCat on Monday, September 14, 2009 @ 11:11:34 GMT
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    An excellent video that proves Special Relativity with the horizontal rotation and General Relativity with the vertical rotation.

    I love the way he says inter-fear-o-meter



    Re: Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment (Score: 1)
    by jatigre1 on Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 04:47:01 GMT
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    This experiment has far more implications and is far more powerful than anything I have ever seen before. Its elegant, simplistic and yet complex, AND its easy to replicate. It basically explains what cause the lines (which no one has bothered asking why there are lines there and what causes them to interfere in the first place! Always with that photon duality BS!). And as far as I can tell, this proves what Tesla was doing in his last 40 years of research, the "active kinetic medium" (Luminiferous Aether) and why it is so secret till today. Tesla was broadcasting the Aether gas, and using this gas to transmit power and information. This experiment has to be further investigated and the Aether has to be included back to the periodic table (as Medeleev intended) and stated as the cause of gravity. How can the so called "scientific community" be so dumb"?
    Einstein falls from history and Tesla rises and triumphs again!



    Vertical Michelson Morley Interferometer Experiment 11 12 2010 (Score: 1)
    by vlad on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 @ 20:29:22 GMT
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    Anon writes: New test of vertical interferometer contradicting that of Martin Grusenick.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH-NC8rvGvU [www.youtube.com]



     

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