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Rossi has been granted US patent on the E-Cat fuel mix specified
Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 @ 22:36:47 EDT by vlad

Devices Mats Lewan writes on his "Impossible Invention" blog: (Last updated on August 25, 9.17 pm CET). Today Andrea Rossi was granted a patent on his LENR based heating device the E-Cat. The patent, which has the filing date March 14, 2012, can be downloaded here: US9115913B1

As far as I understand, the patent describes the so-called low temperature E-Cat that Rossi showed in semi-public demonstrations at several occasions in 2011, and which is also used in an ongoing 350-day trial of a 1 MW plant, but since it describes core parts of the technology it is probably also valid at a certain extent also for more recent E-Cat models with higher operating temperature.

Note that LENR is not mentioned explicitly in the patent, but also note that the contents of the fuel mix are specified — lithium and lithium aluminium hydride as fuel and a group 10 element, such as nickel in powdered form as the catalyst. This is important since fuel and catalyst specifications are lacking from an earlier patent application by Rossi on the E-Cat.



The earlier application has widely been considered far to weak to have chances to be granted. It was originally filed in Italy in April 2008, and an Italian patent was granted in 2011 but the approval was based on old rules, basically not involving any validation of the claims...

Full story: http://animpossibleinvention.com/2015/08/25/rossi-has-been-granted-us-patent-on-the-e-cat/

 
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Re: Rossi has been granted US patent on the E-Cat fuel mix specified (Score: 1)
by vlad on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 @ 22:51:12 EDT
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Very pertinent comments on the news in http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/25/andrea-rossi-granted-e-cat-patent-by-us-patent-office/ [www.e-catworld.com]

As always, intelligent reviews and a great compilation of the latest news on LENR can be found in Dr. Peter Gluck's great blog Ego Out [egooutpeters.blogspot.ro].

Also, please note that Peter is: SEARCHING FOR EGO OUT ASSOCIATES [egooutpeters.blogspot.ro]

"I want to make EGO OUT a more agile and more complete source of LENR news in the spirit of instant and immediate information worldwide. I am searching for close collaborators - later blog associates, partners. In order to compensate the disadvantages of a round planet with time zones (I am at 2 hours later than Moscow and 2 hours earlier as Paris) so for Europe it is OK.  I am interested first in colleagues from the Far East (Japan, China but India too) and in North & South America. The Internet cannot replace completely geographical position. It is also about information from primary sources and pre-publication information, direct discussions,  phones to authors and researchers, meetings, serious rumor.

Please write to: peter.gluck@gmail.com for discussing the principles of collaboration.

This initiative is based on the prediction that next year there will be at least 5-10 times more LENR news daily than now. I also hope  this will solve the problem of blog heritage and EGO OUT will continue when I will be busy applying what I have learned from the Phoenix Birds. Thank you in advance.
" - Peter Gluck






Industrial Heat Files New International Patent for Energy-Producing Reaction Devices (Score: 1)
by vlad on Friday, August 28, 2015 @ 22:00:22 EDT
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From E-Cat World: Thanks to Bernie Koppenhofer for finding the following:

Today, August 27, 2015, Industrial Heat, LLC has filed an International Patent for: ENERGY-PRODUCING REACTION DEVICES, SYSTEMS AND RELATED METHODS

Link is here: https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2015127263&recNum=1&maxRec=&office=&prevFilter=&sortOption=&queryString=&tab=PCTDescription

Inventors are listed as Andrea Rossi and Thomas Barker Dameron.

The abstract reads: “A reactor device includes a reaction chamber; one or more thermal units in thermal communication with the reaction chamber configured to transfer thermal energy to the reaction chamber; and a refractory layer between the reaction chamber and the one or more thermal units.”

This one, unlike the recently approved Rossi patent is very extensive, and will take some time to go through. More details will be added here as information is digested.

I guess this will put an end to the rumor that Industrial Heat is no longer interested in the E-Cat!

Source: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/27/industrial-heat-files-new-international-patent-for-energy-producing-reaction-devices/ [www.e-catworld.com]




Andrea Rossi E-cat Patent Application Rejected in 2016 (Score: 1)
by vlad on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 @ 20:51:01 EST
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This is from Dr. Peter Gluck site Ego Out: David French explains us the professional aspect- patenting methodology- re the Rossi patent rejected the third time. Thanks a lot, dear David- we have to learn from you


Andrea Rossi E-cat Patent Application Rejected in 2016
What’s Next for Rossi and Industrial Heat, LLC?

http://freeenergyscams.com/andrea-rossi-e-cat-patent-application-rejected-in-2016-whats-next-for-rossi-and-industrial-heat-llc/ [freeenergyscams.com]

This web posting is obviously made by persons who want to show that Andrea Rossi is not genuine in his representations in the field of ColdFusion.  I cannot subscribe to that position as a definite conclusion.  I am content to wait for the results of the one-year, 1 MW test due in March - April, 2016.  But I will initially make some remarks about the patenting process governing Rossi's referenced application.

Rossi's recent rejection by the US Patent Office Examiner on January 11, 2016 is part of a patenting process that began when he filed his original application back on August 4, 2009.  That application claims priority from an Italian application made April 9, 2008, but is permitted to contain additional material over the Italian filing.  It is important to appreciate that this application represents Rossi's thoughts at the time of his 2009 filing.  He's not  allowed to amend the "story" in his application after the formal filing has been made.  This application also adopts a style that I strongly recommend against, namely attempting to provide a theory as to why an apparatus or construction produces promised results.  Not a good idea.

This application has wound its way through the Patent Cooperation Treaty, a system for processing applications internationally on a central basis, followed by a National Entry filing at the US Patent Office.  The US Examiner criticized this application on similar grounds to the present grounds in a first Office Action a year and half ago, to which Rossi replied, or rather his attorney of the day replied at that time.  The Examiner then rejected this application a 2nd time, which under US rules is a "final" rejection.

However, by paying a substantial fee and filing of Request for Continued Examination - RCE, Rossi can start the examination process over.  He did so and on June 12, 2015 filed further submissions against the Examiner's final rejection.  Since Rossi filed an RCE, the Examiner is obliged to reply once again with a fresh Office Action.  This action is not final because when you file an RCE you get an extra chance to amend your claims after the Examiner comments on the RCE submissions.  The application is now at the stage where we are awaiting further comments from the applicant.
 
The basis of all of the Examiner’s rejections has been fundamentally founded on the premise that the disclosed invention, and the methodology provided to describe how it works, is not believable.  Normally, the Patent Office takes assertions made by a patent application at face value, as if they are true.  But if the Examiner can present a case that the allegations in the patent application are, on the balance of probability, not likely to be accepted as being true by informed, reasonable people in the field, then the Examiner can ask for proof that the assertions are correct.

The field in this case is being taken by the Examiner as being the universe of Physics, and not the universe of believers in Cold Fusion.

In order to overcome the Examiner's assertion that the results are not believable Rossi filed a copy of the Lugano Report and other materials.  The  Examiner in this recent Office Action has simply said: "Not good enough; I still don't think your claims of excess heat are believable".  Consequently, as this is an RCE, Rossi's attorneys will have one more bite at the apple to file material that might satisfy the Examiner.

This application has a significance far beyond the US patent that issued to Rossi's Leonardo Corporation on August 25, 2015.  That patent had claims which were quite specific to a special configuration said to produce excess heat.  This patent application contains the remarkably broad opening Claim 1 that reads as follows:

"1. A method for carrying out an exothermal reaction of nickel and hydrogen, characterized in that said method comprises the steps of providing a metal tube, introducing into said metal tube a nanometric particle nickel powder and injecting into said metal tube a hydrogen gas having a temperature much greater than 150.degree. C. and a pressure much greater than 2 bars.”

The interlineation shows the amendment made before the US Patent Office by Rossi's attorneys.  It is virtually meaningless in terms of the objective of obtaining an Allowance for the grant of a US patent.  In fact, this amendment broadens the scope of the claim.

The scope of this claim is extraordinary.  If a patent were to issue based on this claim, then it would approach the category of being a Master Patent, or a patent that would dominate the field.  The claim has defects that the Examiner has not raised.  For example, the words "much greater than 150°C"  and "a pressure much greater than 2 bars" are both indefinite.  But the Examiner hasn't even bothered to raise this objection.

Further, the Examiner has not criticized the application for its reference to:

"[0025] In applicant exothermal reaction the hydrogen nuclei, due to a high absorbing capability of nickel therefor, are compressed about the metal atom nuclei, while said high temperature generates internuclear percussions which are made stronger by the catalytic action of optional elements,"(emphasis added)

This is an application filed at the time when the US law required an applicant to disclose the "best mode" for carrying out an invention.  Disclosing that there is a better mode that is not disclosed, should be a grounds for rejecting this application.  The applicant's attorney has endeavored to address this issue unilaterally by deleting the following Claim 8 from the application:

"8. A method according to claim 1, characterized in that in said method catalyze materials are used."However, having disclosed the existence of special "catalyze materials", the deletion of this claim does not overcome a grounds for objection based on failure to describe the best mode.

It is understandable that Rossi would try and keep this patent application alive.  It's scope would be remarkable if issued.  Of course, even if issued, the patent could be challenged by a post-grant Opposition proceeding before the US patent office, or in any litigation in which the patent Owner attempts to assert the patent.  The advantage for Rossi is that, if the patent doesn't have to be tested until litigation at some date in the future, then by that future date there may be enough evidence in existence that everything that he's saying in his patent application could be found to be true.

Some persons ask why the Patent Office is insisting that the truth of these type of applications be established prior to its grant.  They observe that if Cold Fusion is impossible, then there will never be an occasion when the patent will be asserted in Court.  So why make a big fuss now?

Others say that the Patent Office must be careful not to grant patents that could possibly be, and “engine of fraud".

David French

Source: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/01/jan-19-2016-lenr-learning-about-patents.html [egooutpeters.blogspot.ro]



 

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