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Electrokinetic method of generating small amounts of electricity discovered
Posted on Monday, October 20, 2003 @ 14:28:16 GMT by rob

Science Anonymous writes: Found on Slashdot.org (http://slashdot.org/), a group of scientists at the Institute of Physics Journal of Micromechanics and Microengineering are generating electricity a new way - by forcing water through micron-sized channels in a glass block. The water behaves like a liquid-based battery, with positive ions on one side, and negative ions on the other side. The scientists were able to power a lightbulb with 10 volts and one milliamp.

- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3201030.stm
- http://www.iop.org/EJ/news/-topic=632/journal/0960-1317/1
- http://physics.about.com/cs/electromagnetism/a/161003.htm
- http://smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/20/1066502117600.html
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?

- http://www.iop.org/news/632
- http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/



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Re: Electrokinetic method of generating small amounts of electricity discovered (Score: 1)
by vlad on Wednesday, October 22, 2003 @ 01:33:38 GMT
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Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:58:08 -0500
From: "David Thomson"
Subject: RE: Batteries Could Be Powered By Water

Hi Phil,

Maybe you could put an end to this conspiracy right now and give us a
mathematical treatment of how water moving through tight spaces produces

Notice that water moving through large spaces does not produce the same

As far as I'm concerned, the electrical generation is not the important part
of this discovery. For me, the physics involved is far more interesting.
It has been long known that water flowing through the porous Earth is
associated with electric currents within the Earth.

There is something about fluids through tight spaces (whether water or air)
that has electric, dielectric, magnetic, and diamagnetic properties. There
is probably something significant we can learn from studying electric forces
caused by water moving through tight spaces.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Karn [mailto:yahoo1@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:47 AM
> To: ranger116@ free_energy@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [free_energy] Batteries Could Be Powered By Water
> ranger116@....wrote:
> > Batteries Could Be Powered By Water
> [...]
> > The battery of the future could be powered by nothing but water
> > following the discovery of the first entirely new way to generate
> > electricity in more than 160 years.
> This is an excellent example of the rampant scientific cluelessness in
> the news media. It is quite clear from the article that what was
> actually developed is a new (and extremely inefficient) way to convert
> external mechanical energy in the form of flowing water into
> electricity. Yet the title and the first paragraph certainly give the
> impression that the water is itself the source of the energy. This
> confuses and misleads naive (i.e., most) readers, and gets the free
> energy crowd all hot and bothered. Years from now, when this curiosity
> is forgotten, the conspiracy theories will be flying hot and heavy as to
> how yet another "free energy invention" was "suppressed" by the wicked
> energy conspiracy.
> You wonder if the authors and editors even read their own stories, much
> less understand them.
> Phil

Re: Electrokinetic method of generating small amounts of electricity discovered (Score: 1)
by vlad on Friday, October 24, 2003 @ 00:46:28 GMT
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For your information:

The recent excellent report on obtaining direct electricity from water in its friction in small holes in glass reminds me of the Alex Koldamasov device. Koldamasov is from Volgodonsk in Russia. He found that be using a piezo-electric device he could surge water through small holes in a special (undisclosed) material. The liquid was a mix of light and heavy water. The frictional development of high voltage is changed to thermal energy. According to his report, he obtains 20 times (or more) thermal energy out of the device as compared to the input electrical energy.

We look forward to a rapid development of the device by Daniel Kwok and Larry Kostiuk (Univ. of Alberta) wherein direct electrical output is achieved.

Best personal regards, Hal Fox, Ed. J. New Energy


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