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Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy?
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 21:10:26 UTC by vlad
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By Colin Barker, ZDNet (UK)
Published on ZDNet News: July 15, 2005, 5:55 AM PT
"An unemployed North Londoner has been accused of committing the "biggest military computer hack of all time" by the U.S. government while authorities in Britain chose to release him without charge...
His actions have been well-recorded. Over a period of years he managed to bypass the security of what should be the most sophisticated IT systems on the planet, many of which belong to the U.S. Department of Defense and NASA..."
Here is an interesting part of his interview:
So when you were searching for extraterrestrial life, how did you feel about it? Was it just fun?
McKinnon: It was mainly very, very boring. You had to trawl through so much, and bear in mind that it wasn't publicly accessible Web sites, it was all private military Web sites. So it was about logistics, support and, basically, as soon as I controlled a network, I ran a file-searching program looking for keywords in files. So it was exciting every time you did turn up something, which only happened a few times. That was very exciting. I called it research, but it is a bit of a misnomer really.
Was the fun part just in being where you are not supposed to be?
McKinnon: Yes. There (was) a definite illicit thrill that didn't last very long. The issues around the UFO thing, as I discovered more and learned more, became much more serious. Eventually it became all about the issue of suppressed technology. I know for a fact that they have antigravity. And the basic quantum-physical mechanics of having antigravity imply a free source of energy, getting energy direct from the vacuum. Now to me, that would stop all the wars over oil. It would help fight famine and (help) with irrigation. It would be free energy, and that is a huge thing.
So the U.S. has have developed an antigravity device?
McKinnon: Yes. Recently, I think two years ago, Boeing Aerospace announced that they were putting $50 million into investigating antigravity research. For me, the timing was interesting because I think it is something they already have, but it's not general knowledge, and if they were caught they would probably say that it was renegade factions high up in NASA, high up in the military and high up in commerce.
How do you come across these things? Is information on antigravity devices freely available?
McKinnon: Some of it is, but it is a combination of what is freely available and what isn't. Take the Disclosure Project, which is a Washington lobbyist group run by Steven Greer, a military doctor, and he had 300 testimonials in his book from people, ranging from civilian air traffic controllers to ex-commanders-in-chief of NATO, all saying, "Yes, UFOs exist; yes, certain parts of the military know about this, and have this and are using the technology and implementing a trickle-down thing so that eventually the technology will be everywhere."
Source: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5789768.html
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by Kadamose on Saturday, July 16, 2005 @ 09:27:37 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | The military has always been the scum of the Earth, and will forever remain so. Many of us have known for quite some time that the U.S. military has successfully tapped into Zero Point Energy, and has been using it, and its side effects (i.e. antigravity) for several decades now.
You know those so called UFOs we are all seeing too frequently in the night sky, nowadays? Those are not of alien origin; they're terrestrial, military aircraft powered by ZPE.
The reason why this technology is not being shared is because it will collapse the entire world economy as we know it - they're hoping that by gradually introducing the technology ever so slowly, they will be able to stop the changes it will present. Fortunately, for us, they will be unsuccessful in that regard. The money system, all forms of government, and the mindprisons known as religion will all be disposed of, permanently; no ifs, not buts, no exceptions.
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by Cold_Steel on Saturday, July 16, 2005 @ 11:19:17 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | The military fights to protect your right to say stupid things like, "the military has always been the scum of the Earth." Without our military, you wouldn't be able to say ignorant things like that. Did you ever think that this hacker might just be some conspiracy theory nut and might be *gasp* making these stories up? Oh, no, that's right, the government is the only one who lies. This guy has all the credibility in the world. Give me a break.
And I'd like to know just how you "know" the government has successfully tapped ZPE. Or is this just perhaps a silly conspiracy theory too, to which you can provide no evidence as to it being true.
Military aircraft powered by ZPE? Yeah, and the proof that this is true is where exactly. Remember, just because a bunch of people form a theory doesn't make it true. I've never seen any credible proof of this, and I very much doubt I ever will see any.
Again with the collapse of the world economy. This scenario just doesn't make any sense. I don't get it. I don't see the possible logical flow to that conclusion. I just don't understand how you can say, with 100% certainty that government and the "mindprison" of religion will dissolve. It doesn't make any sense. This isn't Huxley's Brave New World. This is the real world. Unless you have the power of precognition, I don't know how you can be so sure of the future. Why would government disappear? Do you think suddenly people are going to the turn the world into some free love, peace for everyone world? NO! Of course not. There will still be violence, there will still be problems and thus we will still need government to protect the rights of the people. Do you think a world of 6+ billion people will just magically govern themselves. Give me a break. That's a fantasy. It would never happen. It doesn't logically make sense. |
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by Kadamose on Saturday, July 16, 2005 @ 12:31:16 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | The military fights to protect your right to say stupid things like, "the military has always been the scum of the Earth." Without our military, you wouldn't be able to say ignorant things like that.
You don't actually believe that rubbish, do you? The military does NOT fight to protect freedoms - it says it does, but those freedoms are merely an illusion, created for the sole purpose of making people think they're actually free, when, in fact, they are actually covertly enslaved! What is the best way to put a prisoner into a prison without him/her fighting to get out? You hide the prison bars!
You think you have the freedom to say whatever the hell you want because you have the first ammendment to rely on? Think again! Look at what happened to Ernst Zundel, an American citizen, who said that most of the Holocaust was a fabrication, and showed proof. Look at what happened to him! He got deported to Canada, and then he got deported to Germany, the country of his birth, where he now sits in jail for commiting no crime, whatsoever. You think you have freedom of speech thanks to the military protecting our fabricated freedoms? If so, where was the military when Mr. Zundel needed it most?
Did you ever think that this hacker might just be some conspiracy theory nut and might be *gasp* making these stories up?
There's a lot of nuts out there, but that doesn't mean what they're saying doesn't have a tinge of truth to it. In this case, a highly intelligent individual was able to crack into computer systems that were thought impossible to be hacked into - at least, by a single person. Now that he's been caught, and is facing a potentially unfair prison sentence, there is no reason to doubt what he says. For one, he is not an american citizen...and two, NASA and the military are trying their hardest to expedite this guy from France to the US so that he can be silenced 'properly'. 70 years for hacking into a computer system and causing no damage while you're at it? That term is worse than committing murder! And you don't find anything odd about this? You obviously need your head checked.
And I'd like to know just how you "know" the government has successfully tapped ZPE.
Have you even seen Free Energy: The Race to Zero Point yet? John Hutchinson has military papers regarding his research that have promptly been CLASSIFIED. Not only that, Thomas Valone and Ufologist David Sereda have both confirmed that 'Black Projects' within the military and the private sectors have tapped into ZPE successfully, and have working applications based on this technology.
Military aircraft powered by ZPE? Yeah, and the proof that this is true is where exactly. Remember, just because a bunch of people form a theory doesn't make it true. I've never seen any credible proof of this, and I very much doubt I ever will see any.
You are obviously a blind little patriotic slave who can't see the truth even though it's staring right at you! The governments of this world are NOT our friends and they do not work in our best interests. I highly recommend that you read David Icke's material, as he exposes the world governments for what they really are: Illuminati-Bloodline controlled vehicles.
Again with the collapse of the world economy. This scenario just doesn't make any sense. I don't get it. I don't see the possible logical flow to that conclusion. I just don't understand how you can say, with 100% certainty that government and the "mindprison" of religion will dissolve.
You don't get it, because you're brainwashed.
The reason why the world economy would collapse is because:
-people would no longer need to buy fuel for their cars, for their homes, or anything else for that matter.
-people would no longer have to pay for Electricity, or buy batteries for their portable devices, because ZPE is infinite and the energy would never run out.
-ZPE, coupled with Eric Drexler's idea of an Assembler, or Universal Constructor, will allow us to create ANYTHING in unlimited supply, and with molecular perfection.
What does this mean? It means EVERYTHING, in regard to the material world, will be free. What is there not to understand? Why are you having such a hard time grasping the idea? Is it because it sounds like it came straight from a science-fiction novel? You need a freaking wake up call! We are inifnite consciousness with infinite possibilities - and this particular possibility isn't a possibility anymore: it's a reality waiting for the right time to manifest.
In regard to the mindprisons known as religion - they were created solely for the purpose of keeping the masses in check. Once people began waking up to the idea that religion was a crock of shit, the people who created these religions then turned around and created what is known as science - which was designed to keep the 'unbelievers' in check. It's all a divide and conquer scheme used to keep us seperated...because, once seperated, we can be controlled. Why were these mindprisons created in the first place? It's because these people, these Illuminati, fear what would happen if we all became aware of our unlimited potential. They are not afraid of who we are...they are afraid of what we will become, given the chance. This is the reason the mindprisons exist - but not for much longer. For now, that's all I will say on the subject.
Why would government disappear?
Because the governments of this world are not our friends, and never have been. And why exactly do you think we need others to police our actions? We don't!
Do you think suddenly people are going to the turn the world into some free love, peace for everyone world?
Why not? What's the point of wartand bloodshed, when you just get twice the anger, and twice the violence?
Do you think a world of 6+ billion people will just magically govern themselves.
Newsflash: The planet can't sustain 6+ billion people, regardless of how advanced our technology is. The Illuminati are planning on eliminating 80% of the 6 billion people on this planet (that's something I actually agree with!), and the remaining 20% will be microchipped and will be 'governed' by a world computer. This is inevitable, and is already happening as we speak. How, you ask? Fluoride in the water, MSG in almost all food, Methylisothyazolinone in most hair products, aspartame in soft drinks etc etc etc. Humanity is slowly being poisoned to death, and doesn't even know it - and, at the rate of ignorance being displayed (a category you obviously fall under) it deserves to be wiped out.
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by Cold_Steel on Saturday, July 16, 2005 @ 17:53:51 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Wow. Simply wow. I has become obvious to me, that you are, indeed, either having a jolly old time writing fiction (which I can see would be greatly amusing, as I myself have written fiction concerning secret societies), or you are unquestionably a conspiracy theory crackpot.
If you are writing fiction, then I will simply say it's uninspired and unoriginal.
If you are, on the other hand, writing what you believe to be true, then I won't waste any more time attempting to have meaningful conversation because it is obvious rationality and reality are not things with which you are intimately familiar.
Regardless, your example of Ernst Zündel tells me a lot. From my brief research, it sounds like he's nothing more than a Nazi hate monger (1984 anyone? Sounds like people like him are the real problem) who deserves to be stuck in prison.
Now, I will leave you with this. You realize that there is more "proof" that my vision of reality is more plausible than your vision of reality. Why do you discount my view of reality when your proof is certainly no more credible than my proof? That's the funny thing about Truth. You never know if it's true or not. |
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I have some news for you (Score: 1)
by Doug on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 19:45:21 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Dude, chill out.
Try looking *up* sometime when you're out, especially if you spend any time away from cities.
Better yet, get a hold of a copy of the Disclosure Project videos of MILITARY witnesses saying it as they KNOW it to be. I fully appreciate that this stuff is hard to swallow when you first encounter it, and yes, there are crackpots clinging to it. But I have been OUT IN THE FIELD with Dr Steven Greer, and some of his witnesses, and you can't fool me. Nobody is powerful enough to "fake" what I have seen, outdoors.
There certainly is some exotic hardware flying around, clearly distinguishable from aircraft, helicopters, satellites, yada yada. Nothing beats personal experience but I emphasise, see those vids before you scoff.
As for all the anti-mil stuff, I do not get off on that, nor does Dr Greer. Indeed, nearly all of his info flows from the military and he has had several meetings with various branches of the military. He does not hate anyone, he simply wants the technology applied to peaceful civilian life. 99% of the military and Governments do NOT have access to any of this stuff, nor credible information supporting it. They're just people like you and I, doing their jobs.
BTW - I have yet to see any speculation on how having "free energy" would NOT totally change (disrupt??) our commerce based societies. Just give it a bit of thought. Dr Greer does, and it requires a lot of high level support for it to happen sensibly and in a controlled fashion. But time is running out (just like Oil).
If you want to access these tapes, go to the Disclosure website www.disclsoureproject.org - I'd loan you one but I am not in the USA.
If you don't then please don't trash it without learning about it. FYI, Steven Greer is a deeply spiritual person, can't be classed as anti-religious. He is not responsible for all that he attracts!
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by blossom on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 17:45:50 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | sorry bruv, i was in the military (HM Forces-RE) and to say that they're scum of the earth is putting it politely. You're brain washed from hour one, day one. Whats shocking is your assertion that they (the mill') allow us to say what we want, when in actual fact if it was'nt for the whole millatary 'Thing' then any one could say anything and at worst it would just be words on the wind. who mentioned no goverments? of course there will be goverments... they'll just be goverments that dont insist on calling bombs "smart"
nice site, sorry about the punctuation! |
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by blossom on Sunday, July 17, 2005 @ 17:57:03 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | oh my me... hes calling himself 'cold steel'.. if you were any harder mate you'd rust. |
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Re: Gary McKinnon: Scapegoat or public enemy? (Score: 1)
by xela26 on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 @ 05:09:52 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Good article, he manage to hack the US department of defense and he had time if UFO exist. Good one Mckinnon.
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