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Water cars
Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 10:35:44 UTC by rob
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Anonymous writes: As the price of gasoline continues to rise, many consumers are turning to hybrid cars. But an inventor says he's found a simpler solution. In the Fox Files, we reveal his unusual fuel source. It's one you may not believe...
Denny Klein fires up his hot new invention. His machine emits a flame that feels only slightly warm to the touch. But watch what happens when he touches anything else. "I can burn a hole right through that brick."
The flame instantly turns hotter than the surface of the sun. Heat so intense, it takes only seconds to literally burn a hole through charcoal. Three seconds turns a brass ball to glowing liquid metal.
Tungsten lights up like a sparkler. Steel, lead and other metals slice on contact. Yet the tip of the welder remains cool to the touch. "no other gas will do this." Denny Klein uses an alternative fuel source once thought impossible. He says people still can't believe him when he reveals his liquid fuel. "water. Water and electricity; it's an electrolysis process."
Klein just patented his process of converting h20 to hho, producing a gas that combines the atomic power of hydrogen with the chemical stability of water. "it turns right back to water. In fact, you can see the h20 running off the sheet metal." Klein originally designed his water-burning engine for cutting metal. He thought his invention could replace acetylene in welding factories. Then one day as he drove to his laboratory in Clearwater, he thought of another way to burn his hho gas.
"on a 100 mile trip, we use about four ounces of water." Klein says his prototype 1994 Ford Escort can travel exclusively on water, though he currently has it rigged to run as a water and gasoline hybrid.
"simply speaking, our plan is to end our dependence on fossil fuels." Pete Domeneci is helping Klein take his hydrogen technology patents from a two room office to top consumer markets around the world. "you know what? Microsoft started from a small garage, why not Hydrogen Technologies?" The duo is already in negotiations with one US auto maker and the US government. Their plans have grown from basic welding with water to powering the entire world with the safest and cleanest fuel on earth: water. Members of Congress recently invited Denny Klein to Washington to demonstrate his technology. Now his company is currently developing a Hummer for the US military that can run on both water and gasoline. So far, his water-powered engines have passed all performance safety inspections.
http://hytechapps.com/
Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc.
4707 140th Avenue North, Suite 116
Clearwater, Florida 33762
Phone: 1-727-531-5979
Fax: 1-727-531-3670
Mr. Denny Klein, President
Mr. Peter Dominici, Vice President of Finance & Information
[Ed: Patent can be found at (I think): http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=US2004074781&F=0]
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by irjsi on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 16:13:26 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | http://hytechapps.com/
Hydrogen Technology Applications, Inc.
4707 140th Avenue North, Suite 116
Clearwater, Florida 33762
Phone: 1-727-531-5979
Fax: 1-727-531-3670
Mr. Denny Klein, President
Mr. Peter Dominici, Vice President of Finance & Information
Congratulations Mr. Klein,
Now "Get the Show on the Road" by disseminating the particulars of your device far and wide. The World has been awaiting such a 'breakthrough'.
Don't let the Centers of Power 'Oversee' the distribution of this device; they will turn it into darkness, and prohibit its use.
Disseminate the particulars of your device far and wide.
Bright High School students can adapt vehicles as you adapted yours. And these students will need training in the nuances of timing,etc. neccessitated by conversion of internal combustion engines, so that thay may train others.
If you do not receive royalties from each user, you will have made your mark on History, inCapital letters! And I wager you will not be rendered monetarily destitute as were Elias Howe or Ely Whitney!
Closer to Mr. Bell, I think!
Salude ! ! !
Roy Stewart
Phoenix AZ
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by Guitarfox on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 18:31:36 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Great, it is only the matter of time before the US military builds infinite-range submarines and ships... with some modification, aircrafts can probably suck clouds and turn them into fuel... |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by Doug on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 20:16:26 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | There are lots of these devices on the market.
Nobody can demonstrate that they don't use more energy (in the form of electrical power) to split the water, than is gained by burning the gas afterwards.
That particular claim isn't even made in this article! somehow they are just "working on it" on the webpage cited.
Using the usual amounts of electricity, which is largely generated from fossil fuels, is not going to cut the mustard. It might mean some vehicle transport without direct oil imports, but without some breakthrough advantage, what is the point? And if there is a claimed breakthrough - then SHOW US!
Fact is, if anyone does demonstrate ZPE electrical energy we'd all be better off using it in electric vehicles anyway. Hydrogen might have a short life enabling our existing internal combustion fleet to be used to the end of it's lifecycle, but that's about it.
I will not be holding my breath for this one to go any further. |
Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by Ted-B on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 @ 20:27:40 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Mr Klein has tested the gains in efficiency with a larger altenator installed and producing the gas with the gas just exhausting into the open air and then with it injected into the intake manifold and they have results proving you are wrong.
The gas works.
(Doug, you don't have to hold your breath, you can breath this gas.)
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 21:58:11 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Hydrogen is still just an energy carrier, not an energy source.
I have recently found another true energy source that is practically free and abundant. I live out in the open range of Nevada and spend time clearing brush, which the county allows us to burn in barrels during daylight.
The brush is pratically all Russian Thistle, the well known Tumbleweed of Western Lore, an invasive species that found its way west with the first European settlers.
While burning this stuff, I began to notice that the sides of the barrel were glowing red hot from the Thistle and indeed the fire was throwing off an enormous amount of heat. The fire burned all day and was still glowing and throwing off heat the next morning.
I became curious and Googled "Russian Thistle" and uncovered a pleasant surprise. The Tumbleweed is an abundant source of renewable Biomass energy, dried Thistle has almost as much energy content as soft coal.
In fact, the makers of fireplace logs use it to make their product.
I have enough thistle on my spread of Nevada to keep me warm all winter, if I would choose to use it.
Then imagine a thistle powered steam generating plant, automobile, locomotive or airplane(?). The stuff burns very clean with practically no ash. It grows without water by sucking moisture out of the air , and doesn't require fertilizer, and its everywhere. It probably does a great part in taking CO2 out of the atmosphere also.
If we would so choose to expoit these properties, places like Nevada, Utah, and Arizona could become the next Kuwait.
Think about it!
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Not a bad idea at all! (Score: 1)
by Rob (rob@zpenergy.com) on Sunday, August 21, 2005 @ 23:07:26 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | Hmm... this was interesting. I too have a lot of thistles growing nearby. How large an area would be needed to keep the average home warm? I guess its a bit cold in Nevada in Winter, yes?
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Re: Not a bad idea at all! (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Monday, August 22, 2005 @ 08:48:42 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Thistle is like a solar powered perpetual motion machine. Pull a patch up and a week later there's more in that spot. If you would pull it up all summer, dry it and grind it up into logs, you could probably keep the whole town warm with what grows on my 5 acres. I'm in climate zone 6, not real cold, but I spend about $400 a year on propane. |
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Re: Not a bad idea at all! (Score: 1)
by irjsi on Monday, August 22, 2005 @ 22:43:50 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | As a practical matter, you are already gathering the thistles. Grinding/pelletizing/packing on site would reduce transportation/storage space requirements.
It does burn HOT!
Roy Stewart
Phoenix AZ |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by truthcat on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 @ 08:41:58 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | During WW II the Russians regularly used wood burning lorries to transport prisoners, etc. So configuring a car to run on Russian Thistle should be relatively simple, given today's technologies. The French now have a short range car running on compressed air. Perhaps a small steam device to run a compresser, using Russian Thistle could be combined with this technology. |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by SEAS1 on Monday, August 22, 2005 @ 12:32:18 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Sounds suspiciously like Santilli MagnaGas... |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by Ted-B on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 @ 20:06:08 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | You can believe this ... when I first heard about this gas, I didn't believe it either. All it takes is holding a brazing torch in your hand that's burning a gas that 5 minutes before was water. When used in a cutting operation, it cuts 3 times faster than the conventional cutting torch .... It doesn't take much electricity. Just twelve volts will make the gas. Seeing is believeing. it's just a matter of time before the world finds out about this gas and it's potential.
The people at The Center for Strategic Alliance have taken this machine to trade conventions .... When asked "what kind of response do you get ?" .... Brent Carmen, President of CSA said they have had it at three large conventions and the people are standing on tables all around the booth just trying to get a peek at the demonstration.
It's amazing ....do yourself a favor ... call CSA and go see it work ! |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by johnandrews52 on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 01:23:02 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Can we run our car
with water and gas?
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real
working or is another scam? |
Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by ronaldcollins on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 22:33:05 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly
increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us [www.runcarsonwater.us] i really recommend it to everybody, it's a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look. |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by neddarren on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 @ 10:28:28 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://cosmicelectrodynamics.blogspot.com | | it is real. i know of jewelers tools that use water gas. google should have them. i just updated the blog with a basic MHD generator description it will turn the kinetic energy of seawater into electric power. free energy. easy to build. http://cosmicelectrodynamics.blogspot.com |
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Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by ronaldcollins on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 22:35:08 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly
increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us [www.runcarsonwater.us] i really recommend it to everybody, it's a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look. |
Re: Water cars (Score: 1)
by Lobsterclaw on Saturday, July 19, 2008 @ 08:54:12 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Permanent earth magnet motors. They are elementary to build and after 100 years only lose 5-10% of their magnetism. They stay very strong over 400 years. The Bedini design is the MOST promising energy generation design out there! Oh yeah, the magnets are cheap too. 650 Lbs force large earth magnet is less than $100. And thats WAY too powerful you'd only need a tenth of that. your looking to pay about $19-$40 per magnet. Look up the design its easy, hook it up to a alternator and you got a century of power. Boyyahhhh, how you like me now!
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