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"I want to believe" flashed across the screen of the darkened conference hall, the audience broke out in applause, and I realized I wasn't in Kansas anymore. Actually I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico, attending the "F section" of the 2006 Space Technology and Applications International Forum (STAIF). Tucked away in the basement of the hotel's conference facilities, the F section is dedicated to "frontier" concepts, though the more cynically inclined might say "fringe."

The leader of the group goes by the cyberspace nom de guerre UFOGuy11, and for the uninitiated in the world of fringe science he is, in fact, Paul Murad. No, Murad does not invent antigravity devices in his garage in Roswell, New Mexico, but rather, he works as a scientist for the Defense Intelligence Agency. In an interview with American Antigravity (Okay, need I even explain what this organization is?), he explained why he started the F section: to end discrimination against UFO believers.

"In the early nineties, I submitted papers on topics that focused around UFOs but I never mentioned the subject in the abstract," Murad said in the interview. "The reviewers accepted the papers on the basis of the abstracts."

But eventually, conference organizers caught on to Murad's little charade and his papers were scanned for hidden UFO references, and then summarily rejected. The F section of STAIF was thus designed to make the world safe for UFO believers, or at least to teach them how to write abstracts that wouldn't get them tagged as lunatics. On a more serious note, it appears that Murad tries to get scientists on the frontiers of science (or fringe, if you will) to behave in a scientific manner by presenting and defending their theories and experiments. And so in the F section, no idea is rejected outright as fringe, rather, it is examined and debated. It's a not bad idea, in theory.

The F section, when I attended this February, was currently in its third year. I listened as UFOGuy11 ran through the agenda, featuring presentations like Eric Davis's "Experimental Concepts for Generating Negative Energy in the Laboratory" (those not familiar with Davis might check out his other work, on teleportation). There was also the usual assortment of papers involving gravity waves, antigravity, and of course zero-point energy (what fringe conference would be complete without zero point?).

Now, before all the free energy enthusiasts, antigravity supporters, and UFO buffs attack me as yet another naysayer, let me say something: I really enjoy reading UFOGuy11's online dialogues with the likes of Jack Sarfatti, inventor of the God phone. I am intrigued by Sarfatti's and Murad's debates over wormholes and warp drive, although I occasionally find their e-mail conversations, interspersed by equations, a little tedious. I want to understand what drives these people and why they believe strange things. I truly believe the F section is a good thing, sort of.

My problem with the F group, however, is the very problem pointed out by Murad himself. Some of the experiments supposedly supporting the outer reaches of science, like antigravity, have problems when other researchers try to replicate the results. "Some of these experiments are so difficult, you can't replicate them," Murad said.

Say what? Did he say you can't replicate them? Isn't that the gold standard of most science, just like they taught us in grade school? There were other problems; sometimes it was difficult to get the scientists on the frontiers to attend even friendly sessions like the F section. Some frontier scientists, it turns out, don't like having their papers critiqued. Wow, scientists not wanting to attend scientific conferences and having their ideas debated? That sounds problematic, too.

These are similar to the problems that plagued the idea of the hafnium bomb, the notional weapon based on an experiment that violated the laws of physics. The experiment allegedly supporting the hafnium bomb had problems being replicated by independent researchers. And when a panel of experts, called the JASONS, tried to question the lead experimenter about his work, he was nowhere to be found. None of that prevented the Pentagon from funding the hafnium bomb, however.

So, let's momentarily put aside the question of whether or not we want the Pentagon to fund "frontier" science (which I discussed yesterday). Let's ask a simpler question: Why do they believe? That's another question I ask in my book released this week, Imaginary Weapons: A Journey Through the Pentagon's Scientific Underworld, which chronicles the life and near death of the hafnium bomb. I contend the very statement "I want to believe" is exactly where the problem lies. Most scientists don't believe or disbelieve—they just look at the data, relying on the tried and true (albeit imperfect) criteria of reproducibility and peer review.

Why does Murad believe? He says it himself—like Agent Mulder from the X-Files, he believes because he wants to believe. Antigravity, faster-than-light travel, and teleportation would all be great if they were real. Upstairs in the main section of the STAIF conference, scientists and engineers discussed such mundane things as, "How the heck are we going to fulfill the inane drive to Mars with current technology?" For many in the F section, that's just way too down-to-earth.

There's no evidence that Murad, despite his Pentagon position, has funded any of these wild ideas, so I find the F group an interesting challenge to mainstream science, and not a threat to national security, like the hafnium bomb. Maybe some day, the scientists of the F section will even replicate a few experiments, come out of the basement, and join the rest of the conference. I wish them luck.

-- Sharon Weinberger

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June 14, 2006 08:53 AM | Bizarro Comments

I remember when the ufo's hit Mexican pot feilds. It was in the papers 2 year ago. This craft in this picture was in Mexico Citys newspapers. It is a simple helli rotor that extends upwards and makes the craft hoover. The lights are to disorient the viewers from below. The craft was experimental by the Us Air Force for experimental Jet rocketry using helli rotors for landings vertically rather than horizontally wtih the jet thrusters. The craft is supposed to be originated with three cockpits and dual access cd-roms for guidance controls. It supposedly was stolen technology from where the first cd-roms ever came to be to the public. Now that we have anti-schock esp (coincidencidental inside joke to aliens telepathy capabilities) technologies. The craft was used to spray the marijuana feilds with a chemical to promote non- bud growth so the drug crop would not grow. The perspective analysits are geeks and intend well but need a lesson in tri angled rocketry that shoots twin retro-rockets in triangular patterns blasts for assimilated patterns of hoover flightplans and evasion techniques from modern ground to air misles. The craft was armed with stealth capabilities and now could be implemented with the newer vomit beams and headache beams for more future paranioa reports from ufo watchers. I keep a close eye on the ufo watchers, my bat specs came up missing in 1981 and foudn them posted in a area 51 watcher site. Espianage agents probably cold war flunkies for the now pat tense russians. No one to spy for now, chines maybee or alkhaidah to gather intel on our newer missles as well.

Posted by: Max Anderson at March 30, 2007 09:56 PM

Yes, I agree with you on some accounts however, there must be a bridge between the two. wasn't that primary intention of this F-Group?

You remeber the definition of *insanity? the one that states trying to apply the same formula while expecting different results?

While the conventional scientists apply (*insanity) to what is already "Known" the F-Group searches for the "Unknown"

I see no harm done there.

"Impossible simply means we haven't done it yet"

Posted by: GVT12 at September 24, 2006 11:56 PM

So, "Most scientists don?t believe or disbelieve?they just look at the data, relying on the tried and true (albeit imperfect) criteria of reproducibility and peer review."

Having spent thirty years working with and observing scientists in their sandboxes, I assure you that this statement is the pinnacle of naivete. There is no more passionate proponent of cherished "accepted wisdom" on earth than the average scientist, nor one more bitterly hostile to the peer that dares reject his paper!

Posted by: pedestrian at June 14, 2006 11:20 AM

Good article Sharon! I think there are basically two possibilities regarding our DIA scientist friend. Either he is an extraordinarily accepting individual who has enough clout in the right circles to be able to start something like the F Group without his career suffering in the hopes of encouraging scientists to have an imagination and get inspired instead of going strictly by the numbers...or...he's there partially as a source of disinformation (Defense INTELLIGENCE Agency) and partially to keep an eye on the 'fringe' element in case they stumble onto something they shouldn't.

Either way, cool article.

[Thx to Jack Sarfatti for this thread - Vlad]


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