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What Andre Rossi is afraid of?
Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2014 @ 21:31:03 EST by vlad

Science WGUGLINSKI writes: In his blog Journal of Nuclear Physics Andrea Rossi is trying to transmit wrong information to the readers, when the subject is about the nature of the reactions occurring within his eCat.

For instance, in December 12th Frank Acland posted the following comment:

* Frank Acland
December 12th, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Dear Andrea,

I am sorry I cannot understand Italian — because you apparently had an interesting interview with Salvo Mandarà today.

I have been reading some translated reports of the interview and wonder if you could confirm whether these translated points are correct:



1. That the 1 MW plant operates with no external drive input for 3/4 of the operation (self sustain mode)
2. That Industrial Heat will sell heat (not plants)
3. That you have discussed the E-Cat with the CEO of Volvo
4. That the E-Cat reaction is not necessarily fusion
5. Massive sales will begin once the first 1 MW plant is verified consolidated

Thank you!

Frank Acland

Andrea Rossi posted the following reply:
  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland:
    1- That’s so far our best available situation with E-Cats and Hot Cats.
    2- No, I did not say this. I said that our plants now make heat and that’s the product our Customers can use so far.
    3- Yes, in Göteborg during the year 2012, after an engineer of Volvo had attended a test in our factory in Bologna ( Italy).
    4- What I said is that mass production cannot start before the operation of the first industrial prototype, installed in a factory of a Customer, is consolidated after a long period of continuous operation ( at least one year).
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

As we see, Andrea Rossi supressed propositally the question 4,   Then in December 13th I posted the following comment:

  • Wladimir Guglinski

    Andrea Rossi wrote in December 12th, 2014 at 11:37 PM

    Frank Acland:
    1- That’s so far our best available situation with E-Cats and Hot Cats.
    2- No, I did not say this. I said that our plants now make heat and that’s the product our Customers can use so far.
    3- Yes, in Göteborg during the year 2012, after an engineer of Volvo had attended a test in our factory in Bologna ( Italy).
    4- ???
    5- What I said is that mass production cannot start before the operation of the first industrial prototype, installed in a factory of a Customer, is consolidated after a long period of continuous operation ( at least one year).
    —————————————————————

    Dear Andrea,
    You forgot to answer the question 4

    regards
    wlad


And Andrea Rossi posted the following reply:

  • Andrea Rossi

    Frank Acland, Wladimir Guglinski:
    I forgot to answer to the question 4 of the Frank Acland’s comment, sorry: I answer in seconds while working…
    Answer: as you have read on the Report of the ITP after the Lugano test, energy comes substantially from isotopical shifts, which is not a fusion, at least for what concerns the final results.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

As the argument  posted by Andrea Rossi makes no sense, I had posted the following reply:

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•  Wladimir Guglinski
Your comment is awaiting moderation

December 13th, 2014 at 2:55 PM

Andrea Rossi wrote in December 13th, 2014 at 7:28 AM

Frank Acland, Wladimir Guglinski:
Answer: as you have read on the Report of the ITP after the Lugano test, energy comes substantially from isotopical shifts, which is not a fusion, at least for what concerns the final results.
————————————————————

Dear Andrea,
what you say is disagree to what is said in the page 30 of the Report:

In summary, the performance of the E-Cat reactor is remarkable. We have a device giving heat energy compatible with nuclear transformations, but it operates at low energy and gives neither nuclear radioactive waste nor emits radiation. From basic general knowledge in nuclear physics this should not be possible. Nevertheless we have to relate to the fact that the experimental results from our test show heat production beyond chemical burning, and that the E-Cat fuel undergoes nuclear transformations."

Isotopic shift has nothing to do with production of energy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopic_shift

regards
wlad
==================================================


Surprisingly, Andrea Rossi did not aprove my comment.  He had deleted it.

And the question is: why ??

Why is Andrea Rossi trying to convince people that Rossi-Effect is not caused by nuclear fusion???

First of all, we note that Andrea Rossi is rejecting what is stated in the page 30 of the Lugano Report, acording to which the device is "giving heat energy compatible with nuclear transformations "

Why??

One could speculate that Andrea Rossi wants to avoid the resistance of the academic physicists.  That he thinks to be easier for the community of physicists to accept his eCat if he convince everybody that his reactor works without nuclear reactions.

But he dont need to be afraid anymore on the resistance of the academic physicists, because the results of his eCat was already comproved by three universities of Europe, as stated in the Lugano Report published in October 2014:
http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

Besides, soon his eCat is going to be put in the market, and the community of physicists will be obliged to accept that his cold fusion reactor really works.
Therefore he dont need to be afraid of the resistance of the academics.


But  perhaps there is another reason:  an old dream of Prof. Focardi.

Along several comments posted by Andrea Rossi, he used to say that he believes that it is possible to explain the eCat working by considering the Standard Nuclear Physics, because Prof. Focardi told that it is possible to find a theory based on the Standard Model, and those who claim that cold fusion is impossible from the principles of the Standard Model are saying such a thing because they do not know well the Standard Model.

So, other possibility of the Rossi's stubbornness in rejecting nuclear fusion in this eCat can be due to his loyalty to the Foccardi's dream. 

But no matter what is the reason, what Andrea Rossi is doing is  not honest.  Many of the readers of the Rossi's blog are discussing about the Lugano Report, in order to try to discover the reactions within the eCat, and to understand the mechanisms responsible for cold fusion occurrence.
While Andrea Rossi is trying to deceive the readers, by claiming that he will publish a theory compatible with the principles of the Standard Model, and what is the worst, he is saying nonsenses, as to claim that do not occur nuclear fusion in his eCat, an affirmation in completely disagreement to the Lugano Report


 
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SECOND COMMENT DELETED BY ANDREA ROSSI (Score: 1)
by WGUGLINSKI on Sunday, December 14, 2014 @ 08:11:27 EST
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Andrea Rossi had approaved the comment ahead.
But after some minutes he decided to delet it.

So, the comment ahead was deleted from the Rossi's blog:


•  Wladimir Guglinski

December 14th, 2014 at 6:09 AM

Herb Gillis wrote in December 13th, 2014 at 8:26 PM
Andrea Rossi:
Since you believe the energy source in the Ecat is isotopic shifts, can you give us any guidance at all about the role the hydrogen plays? Do you think that at some point the hydrogen could be eliminated?
————————————————–

Dear Herb,
Andrea Rossi will never unveil what is inside his eCat.

Today he has a good reason: he is waiting the Patent Registration, and so he is afraid his invention can be stolen.

But in upcoming years, when he get the Patent, he will not unveil what is inside the eCat, because today he claims that it is possible to explain the Rossi-Effect from the principles of the Standard Nuclear Physics. But as it impossible to explain the Rossi-Effect by considering any nuclear theory based on the Standard Nuclear Physics, he will never succeed to find an acceptable theory.

He knows that any theory he will propose in the future will be submitted to the scrutinity of the experts in Nuclear Physics, and they will point what is wrong in his theory. Therefore, the best thing to be done is never unveil what exists within the eCat, because by this way Andrea Rossi will say that he has a successful theory based on the Standard Model, and his theory works well because he knows what exists within the eCat, but he cannot tell what such mysterious thing is.

regards
wlad




THIRD COMMENT DELETED BY ANDREA ROSSI (Score: 1)
by WGUGLINSKI on Sunday, December 14, 2014 @ 10:53:52 EST
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  • Wladimir Guglinski
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Andrea Rossi wrote in December 13th, 2014 at 7:28 AM

    Frank Acland, Wladimir Guglinski:

    Answer: as you have read on the Report of the ITP after the Lugano test, energy comes substantially from isotopical shifts, which is not a fusion, at least for what concerns the final results.
    —————————————————–

    Dear Frank Acland

    Andrea Rossi is a man who loves to challenge the impossible.

    Many years ago he faced his first challenge: to prove that cold fusion is possible.
    Because along years Andrea Rossi heard the experts in Nuclear Physics telling him: “Give up ! Cold fusion is impossible!!! You will never succeed to get cold fusion, because it is impossible from the principle of the Standard Nuclear Physics.”

    But Andrea Rossi stubbornly decided to challenge the impossible. Along years he had worked hard, and finally Andrea Rossi did succeed to prove that the impossible is possible: cold fusion is possible, and his eCat works.

    Nowadays Andrea Rossi continues loving to challenge the impossible.
    Now he is facing his second challenge: he wants to prove that Rossi-Effect can be explained via the Standard Nuclear Physics.

    As Rossi won the first challenge, by proving to be possible cold fusion, which the nuclear experts claimed to be impossible, now he is sure that he will succeed to prove to be possible the second challenge which we claim to be impossible: to explain the Rossi-Effect by discovering a theory based on the Standard Model.

    But what Andrea Rossi rejects to understand is the following:

    1 – The Standard Nuclear Physics is wrong. The theory was developed from some wrong foundations. Some new correct foundations are missing in the theory.

    2 – Therefore it is easy to understand why Andrea Rossi did succeed in his first challenge: he proved that cold fusion is possible, in spite of cold fusion is impossible according to the Standard Nuclear Model, because the Standard Model is wrong. So, cold fusion is not impossible. Actually the Standard Model is wrong, and so the theory cannot be used so that to conclude what is impossible in the field of Nuclear Physics.

    3- So, the second challenge faced by Andrea Rossi makes no sense, because it makes no sense to explain a phenomenon (impossible according to the foundations of the wrong Standard Model) by using a theory based on the wrong Standard Model.

    4 – In another words: Rossi did succeed in his first challenge because he faced a viable challenge, because the Standard Model is wrong. But now he is facing an unviable second challenge, because nobody can get success by using a theory based on wrong foundations (of the Standard Model) so that to explain the Rossi-Effect.

    .

    I dont understand his second challenge.

    He already did succeed to enter in the pages of the History of the Science, by discovering one of the most important inventions of the mankind.
    He would have to be glad and satisfied with his success.
    He proved to be possible the impossible because the impossible was wrongly considered impossible because it was inferred from a wrong theory.

    Now he takes the risk of staining the glory of winning his first challenge, by facing a second challenge which makes no sense, since he will try to explain the Rossi-Effect by proposing a theory based on the wrong foundations of the Standard Nuclear Physics, according to which the Rossi-Effect is impossible.

    I really dont understand why to face so inglorious challenge, whose fate can be only the insuccess.

    regards
    wlad



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Re: THIRD COMMENT DELETED BY ANDREA ROSSI (Score: 1)
by WGUGLINSKI on Sunday, December 14, 2014 @ 11:03:00 EST
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THIRD COMMENT DELETED BY ANDREA ROSSI:

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FOURTH COMMENT DELETED BY ANDREA ROSSI (Score: 1)
by WGUGLINSKI on Monday, December 15, 2014 @ 09:41:11 EST
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Robert Curto posted the comment ahead in the Rossi's blog:

  • Robert Curto

    Dear Wladimir Guglinski,
    I read in some blogs you are complaining that Dr. Andrea Rossi has spammed your comments to sway the attention to the fact that you have discovered how the E-Cat works, you also have accused him of giving wrong information, to not allow anybody to explain how the E-Cat works !
    Excuse me, but all this is ridiculous. First of all Dr. Andrea Rossi has always
    said he does not want , or cannot talk about the mechanism that makes the
    Rossi Effect, so he swayed nothing, just said he cannot give this kind of information, secondly he repeatedly said that he does not agree with your theories and that they have nothing to do with the E-Cat, and also he has repeatedly said he adheres to the Standard Model.
    He always gently hosted your comments and published your articles, that all the other Magazines have always refused. He offered you unlimited space on his blog.
    Now he spams several comments of yours, and you insult him !
    I think that anyone with thinking faculty can understand that he spammed your comments because, as I read on the other blog, you have mixed up your theories and the E-Cat connected theory.
    With the E-Cat he probably wants not to involve your theories.
    I would like to hear from Dr. Andrea Rossi, if I have guessed correctly.
    Robert Curto
    Ft. Lauderdale Florida
    USA




I had posted  two replies to Robert, but Andrea Rossi did not aproave any of them.
Andrea Rossi deleted  both them.


The two replies to Robert are ahead:


•  Wladimir Guglinski
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
December 15th, 2014 at 3:45 AM

Robert Curto wrote in December 14th, 2014 at 10:54 PM
Dear Wladimir Guglinski,
I read in some blogs you are complaining that Dr. Andrea Rossi has spammed your comments to sway the attention to the fact that you have discovered how the E-Cat works, you also have accused him of giving wrong information, to not allow anybody to explain how the E-Cat works !
—————————————————–
Dear Robert
I did not say what you say.

I did not say he is not allowing to explain how the eCat works.
Andrea Rossi never deleted a comment of mine concerning my theory on how the eCat works.

I only said that “Andrea Rossi is trying to transmit wrong information to the readers, when the subject is about the nature of the reactions occurring within his eCat.
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3586&mode=&order=0&thold=0

regards
wlad






•  Wladimir Guglinski
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
December 15th, 2014 at 3:51 AM

Ah… Robert,
if you do not know, when we say nature of the reactions, we are referring to what sort of reactions they are, if they are chemical or nuclear, and if they are fusion.

I suggest you to read carefully what was posted in the ZPENERGY, before to say things I did not say

regards
wlad



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