
Off the shelf portable generators, can they be made overunity?
Date: Saturday, November 26, 2005 @ 21:43:12 UTC Topic: Testimonials
From the KeelyNet list (Jerry Decker): Hola Folks! Consider;
You know John Bedini says his gravity field generator produced in excess
of 800% efficiency and would run itself. See; http://www.keelynet.com/tilley/tillBGFG.htm
I have not seen this device in operation but know John and believe him
to be an honest guy.
The other device is the Wilson machine which I did see as reported at;
http://www.keelynet.com/tilley/tillwilson.htm
He says the longest time he ran it non-stop under load was 3 days, but
the 5-6 foot wooden flywheel with the nails in the V shape (to serve as
a pulley for the belt) started flying off the wheel, forcing him to shut
it down.
The other two devices I've seen were Tilleys as reported at;
http://www.keelynet.com/tilley/tilltrip.htm
One powered his building, the other powered his car.
I'm recounting these observations because of an idea of removing the gas
engine from an emergency generator setup, then connecting an electric
motor and a battery to power it which has some history.
Using flywheels, heavy weights and batteries (possibly providing an
inertial tap from gravity but more likely a desulphation phenomena,
possibly a combination of the two) to provide the extra energy.
In Tilleys case, he used a W.W. Grainger off the shelf DC motor that was
fed with AC which goes through a DC speed controller. He also uses a
2500watt inverter to convert the 8 parallel battery powers' 12vDC to
120vAC. The spinner output was 12-13vdc which fed into the charge
controller which recharged the batteries.
I was very surprised at the prices versus power output of portable
generators according to this site;
http://www.nextag.com/portable-generators/search-html
$600 for 4kw $2000 for 15kw
The hitch is the gas engines that power these things are up to 18HP.
Electric motors of that size are large, expensive and pull a lot of
juice. Of course that is for a FULLY LOADED generator.
To simply trickle charge a battery or batteries, a smaller motor could
be used.
My point with this, Tilleys device is very similar to a portable
generator....except with batteries added and possibly use of neo magnets
in the 'spinner' (his generator).
Bedini had written that the secret is in the batteries.
So;
1) an off the shelf portable generator
2) remove the gas engine, install an electric motor (ideally DC motor
for better efficiency), possibly modify the DC controller so that it
didn't take AC, only pure DC from the batteries, one more step in
lowering resistance)
3) add one or two batteries 4) add a charge and load controller
The motor is powered from the battery(ies).
The generator charges the batteries and provides power taps for outside
loads.
The system MIGHT be self-running if the right balance of parts are
incorporated.
At Tilleys, when he reduced the speed of the DC motor which fed his
spinner box, the lights in his building dimmed.
The 8 batteries fed the 2500 watt inverter which powered the building
lights. So the output from the spinner was logically reduced as charge
for the batteries decreased.
I can't believe the overall resistance could be overcome sufficiently to
make it to provide excess power, let alone self-running. IF IT WORKS as
shown, I think there is most definitely modifications of off the shelf
components.
Possibly the batteries might greatly extend the runtime but there would
come a time when they would be too drained and need an outside source of
power to fully recharge.
The nuances which might make such a system work could come from some
kind of desulphation which would re-enrich the battery acid while
exposing more surface area from the plates, a doped magnetic field
(adding neos) for the generator, lowering resistance anywhere possible
AND possibly adding a flywheel.
The load would be sustained by the battery(ies) while at the same time
being recharged by the output of the generator. Its not like a full
load is always being drained, so there would be a peak use period where
the batteries would be partially drained, but would recover once the
peak period went back to an idle period.
-- Jerry Decker - http://www.keelynet.com
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