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Lutec Update
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 @ 19:59:07 UTC by vlad
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Zap writes: The latest Lutec Update can be found at this URL.
http://www.lutec.com.au/updates.htm
Extract: "Update News as at 24 June 2005
24 June 2005
Dear Friends of Lutec:
There is a web site www.yowusa.com that we suggest will be of interest to you.
It is downloadable so you can listen to a web radio interview featuring Marshall Masters interviewing Jacco Van Der Worp, a Dutch physicist and systems failure analyst who, after lengthy telephone consultations with Lou, has examined the physics behind the control system used in Lutec motors, and has confirmed the validity of the technology....
...Where we stand right now is that we do need a million dollars to complete the technology to where we want it before releasing it in the form of a generator..."
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by vlad on Monday, June 27, 2005 @ 20:49:59 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | From Sterling D. Allan: Vlad ...
I hope you will consider posting a link to my coverage of the Lutec in response to the Masters ditty.
http://pesn.com//2005/06/24/9600115_Lutec1000_Lu_Brits_Interview/
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Sterling
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What Lutec, GMCC, Bedini, and Bearden Technologies May Have in Common (Score: 1)
by vlad on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 23:37:29 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://www.zpenergy.com | This is Sterling latest opinion essay:
http://pesn.com/2005/06/28/9600117_Lutec_GMCC_Bedini_Bearden/ |
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Re: What Lutec, GMCC, Bedini, and Bearden Technologies May Have in Common (Score: 1)
by ElectroDynaCat on Friday, July 01, 2005 @ 12:07:49 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | One thing we know for sure that they have in common, they do not function as planned.
When are these researchers going to quit wasting their time and money on rotating magnetic devices and begin to investigate nano technology as a means of FE/OU?
Some folks just love banging their head against the wall, if you do it long enough, it promotes a feeling of well being. Especially after you stop. |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by pulsed_ignition on Monday, June 27, 2005 @ 22:29:17 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://diamondlube.com | I wish LUTEC all the very best OUTSIDE of my US patent protection, which is why I contacted them about March 1, 2003 for good reason. I specifically suggested they use tungsten, then on March 4, 2003 they announced they solved the mechanical switching problem.
Americans should invest in fellow Americans, especially those with new technology that is now being proven to actually work in what were thought to be impossible ways. Zero Spark Suppression has many untold benefits, some of which are listed on my website or found on ebay.com under the search Pulsed Plasma. My targets are commercial hydrogen production, storage within nanophase diamond and synthetic diamond production.
Again, Congratulations to the Australians that got interrupted commutation to work also, but I have the priority patent in the USA.
Others tried but "failed" to design a workable system due to the use of "Normal" conductors, however my designs used High Temp Conductors which allowed success where many others such as Gray, Adams and Newman Failed. I had assistance that was not available to my predecessors - but that is another story.
Chris Arnold
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by Kadamose on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 08:37:45 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | If you're more concerned about patents and money...then I hope you, and everyone who is associated with people who only care about such things, fail miserably in everything they do.
It is this crap that leads to suppression. |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by pulsed_ignition on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 20:12:22 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://diamondlube.com | I help the Aussies and all you can do is bitch, nice going. Now that's a bad attitude but common - and the voice of someone who wants something for nothing at the expense of anyone but himself/herself.
Chris |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by Kadamose on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 21:21:03 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | I didn't mean any disrespect in regard to your intellect, Chris. I DO have a problem with people doing free energy research who expect monetary rewards, however. This technology, ultimately, is about destroying the money system...not fueling the human tendency for greed.
You helped the Aussies? Great, good job - you've earned my respect in that regard. But if you're wanting to be the next multi-billionaire inventor who has complete control of the technology and later, creates the next evil, corrupt corporation, then you will be the ultimate form of scum. This is one of the many reasons why Americans are so despised.
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by spacedrive on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 21:02:56 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Someone will reap the benefit from a working free energy device, ardent capitalist that I am, I vote for the inventor to reap the benefits. |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 @ 13:09:35 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | By your, 'everyone should be altruistic' post, I'm guessing you live in a small cummune where everyone works for free and for the good of mankind. How do you pay for internet access?
Seriously, though, you can't expect everyone who tries to invent anything worthwhile to do that for free. What's your rationale for that? Maybe you personally spend all of your time in your basement trying to invent a cure for cancer but most people aren't like that and many people have to get money to support themselves and their families. |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 @ 12:59:20 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Whatever problem Lutec solved after receiving your communication, it didn't help them whether they used your advice or not.
Where is your machine failing? |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by pulsed_ignition on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 @ 15:48:16 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://diamondlube.com | That is an interesting point indeed. My machine is NOT failing. Lutec is having, what I believe are very specific "design conflict" problems, however I cannot elaborate further on that.
If you look at my work and the video clip on the links page - my device works better than fine. I believe in bending like the willow rather than standing firm like an Oak - where device operation is concerned anyway.
Best Regards,
Chris |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 20:23:09 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Lutec has more than switching problems from what I can tell.
I looked at your website but wasn't sure how it related to Lutec's. Do you also have a over-unity device?
Lutec is specifically trying to create an over-unity device, regardless of the vernacular they're using. Saying, "It's not perpetual motion, it just produces more energy than it consumes" doesn't count in my book. Looking at the physics behind switching a magnetic field, they're not going to add energy during the process of switching.
Do you believe your switching technique creates a situation where more energy can be produced with the changed state than is consumed in the switching? |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by mojo on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 @ 10:05:47 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Check out
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magnetic_Motors:PM3
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 20:54:35 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | You put a lot of work into that site.
You need to label your graphs. I assumed it was some unit of force but then the graphs were not drawn to scale even though they appeared to be plotted.
Either way, you could test your theory if you have a few bar magnets, some duct tape and a bicycle wheel. You wouldn't need to put the magnets all the way around the wheel. If it works, you should see that one magnet on the wheel and one magnet outside should keep it spinning. |
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Re: Lutec Update (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 21:23:33 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Also, I'll throw in my two cents. If you feel you have a theory, you don't have to build the whole machine to see if your theory works. Set up as simple an example as proves or disproves your theory. Otherwise you'll end up like Lutec, building an entire non-working machine and they still don't know what their theory is.
For your personal machine, look up other perpetual motion machines. I've seen a diagram that had your theory (magnets aligned like yours) but had the magnets on the 'rotor' and 'stator' reversed. It didn't work. |
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For two cents, you can't even knock yourself out. (Score: 1)
by TilEulenspiegel on Friday, July 15, 2005 @ 23:54:01 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com/ | If a believer follows your advice, and experiments himself, it will prove only that his implementation was inadequate. He's not worthy. Perpetual motion is a mystery religion; you can't shake a true faith with evidence or theory or even lions. Why don't believers ever ask Lutec or whatever scam they are devoted to to see the electric bill showing that they have been making their own power? Because they can't face the answer.
To grind the old axe. GWE Technologies / Genesis Energy Systems / United Fuel Cell Technologies / Genesis World Energy / Foundation Energy confidence man Patrick Kelly of Kuna has elected to make his home address public, why do the believers not ask for an electric bill? There is no privacy to protect anymore. So, since Kelly has been claiming that the Edison Device has powered his house since 2001, let him show the utility bills.
Investors, did you notice that you paid for the construction of the house? And the Hummer of course. |
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Re: For two cents, you can't even knock yourself out. (Score: 1)
by kurtbf on Saturday, July 16, 2005 @ 09:02:59 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | I think you're right, but only up to a point. Even if a person has harbored their perpetual motion machine for years, if a person simplifies and experiments with their concept, initially they may not believe the negative results but I believe they'll usually come around. I've been on free energy sites and people seem to understand their errors when faced with them.
In Lutec's case, you may be completely right. They seem to have too much invested and the 'concept' has become part of their identity. If they still believe in their work at this point, you could rocket them into the sun and they still wouldn't see the light.
In Mojo's case, he just needs a correct graph of force vs. position to see his flaw. He didn't label most of his graphs but if those graphs are supposed to be force vs. position, he miscalculated. Miscalculations, misconceptions and rounding errors all contribute to the 'discovery' of working perpetual motions. |
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