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Genesis World Energy Website Update
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 @ 20:12:37 UTC by vlad
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chrish64 writes: Genesis World Energy has updated dates on the News section on their website. I cannot seem to find any updated content though.
www.genesisenergysystems.com
Various sources confirmed that the licensee only part of the site was updated - no other details for the public for now [Vlad]
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 @ 23:30:10 UTC | Either Genesis World Energy has solved the energy crisis or they are the biggest alternative energy scam in history. Now it is ONE or the OTHER and NOTHING in between.
Does anyone have any news about the investigation into GWE?
I hope GWE is telling the truth. But as of right now by showing NO evidence the skeptics have EVERY right to peacefully, legally, and lawfully criticise them.
Am I sawing GWE is lying? No way! We don't know. I hope they are telling the truth!
Anthony, if you are reading this, could you please make a post! |
Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 @ 23:31:33 UTC | | I just say that this does NOT give anyone a right to bash and attack GWE. I am only saying that since GWE has provided no evidence even I am becoming skeptical. |
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GWE has pulled the update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 11:51:50 UTC | | Has anyone else noticed that the site update has been pulled. It appears that Latest News is back to 2003. Wonder why? Any answers out there. |
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Re: GWE has pulled the update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 13:04:01 UTC | | i noticed that the headlines changed on the main page but the when you click on them it brings you to the news page but no info regarding the headlines. |
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 03:22:30 UTC | They also state that they will be employing 4500 people by the end of 2004. Now if there are already people being employed they have to work somewhere so what does the GWE "factory" look like ? If they are only just starting to employ people then they will have to do an awful lot of training (even simple safety awareness courses) before the end of the year which is very aggressive and so it has to be happening now and therefore....there has to be a "factory" where people work.
Is there anyone in Boise who can tell us if the GWE factory looks like a genuine business. Is there anybody near Boise who's willing to apply for a job just to get an interview and get some more info.
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 1)
by MOTSB on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 06:52:28 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | I'm here...Always been here and I aint goin away.
You got a address? Man on the street in boise MOTSB. |
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MOTSB, how's the economic boom in Boise? (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 09:39:10 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | MOTSB, I would have thought that with those 4000 jobs at GWE, everyone in Boise would have to work two jobs to build the new housing and roads.
I checked out Lowes and they didn't have any Edisons in white or off-white. So I'll suppose I'll have to wait. But since GWE's been making them for 9 months now and selling them for 2, somebody must have bought one by now. Hey folks, what color did you get? How's it holding up?
I checked out Target afterwards and I couldn't find any of the wide range of consumer products that used iGas and HICEF technology. Maybe it's only in Boise you can buy those. |
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Re: MOTSB, how's the economic boom in Boise? (Score: 1)
by MOTSB on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 11:53:47 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | I'm sittin on a house I built after I got laid off a (semiconductor equip tech/process engineer) year ago...My brother in law is still unemployed software engineer and his unemployment is running out. The house should sell, but there is lots of competition. I'm a local with lots of old friends and family in the hood. I would be suprised if I didn't get wind of most anything that goes on in this neck of the woods. Whats weird is that all the other clients of Guy Rome and Assoc(GWE's PR Co). are quite reputable. I even saw a Simplot brochure they made at some time in the past. Simplot is the local billaire. I guess anyone can make a brochure though. Gas is high here just like evrywhere else....
Hey...GWE, "Send one of your new employees my way and I'll sell 'em or build'em a house that they'll love."
MOTSB |
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GR (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 12:20:10 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | | Sorry that the 4000 job GWE boom hasn't percolated to you yet. The tough times all around probably had a lot to do with GR's poor judgement in taking on GWE. |
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Wow. I was wrong all along. (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Friday, May 14, 2004 @ 13:01:04 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | It's been a tough couple of months since the GWE devices hit the market, and I've had to admit that I was wrong about them all along. The worst part was this weekend, when I wanted to relax listening to Car Talk on NPR, all they would talk about is the HICEF powered cars, and how they are transforming the economy. I just couldn't listen to them, but I decided to go take a look at the HICEF powered Volvos (Volvo passenger cars is owned by Ford). Even the radio station I switched to from NPR was playing an add for the HICEF cars. I tried to turn on my iPod, but the power was down, since I have an old one that was made before Apple started using GWE 20 year batteries that never need recharging. I was really bummed. Finally, the Volvo dealer didn't have any HICEF cars that were not pink. I'm not going to drive a pink Volvo, so I gave up on that.
Still, I am getting the benefit of the cars being on the market. The HICEF cars have led to a huge drop in demand for gasoline, AAA is reporting gas prices hitting record lows:
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/2286/
The whole economy is rebounding. Paul Krugman over at the NYT speculates that the falling energy prices could lead to a period of sustained economic growth without inflation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/14/opinion/14KRUG.html
With oil prices dropping, oil use trailing off, and Edison component exports worth billions a day, the USA balance of payments is improving:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/business/worldbusiness/13econ.html
I ought to be enjoying all this, but I'm not, since I am so busy eating my hat.
I tried to buy an Edison at Lowes, but they don't make them in colors I like. But with all the other people who are buying them, the price of gas and electric is just falling through the floor. Nowhere is this felt more in Boise, where natural gas prices are falling so fast, it was just on Channel 2: http://tinyurl.com/34hhk
With all the money GWE's been making, they have just done so much good. We all remember their announcement of the award of the Angel scholarships:
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=664
and also their research grants. They paid their back taxes in Delaware and Nevada (WEM's in Nevada, and you can check their status there for free). They settled their old bills. They paid a dividend to their investors. So many people have been helped.
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Re: Wow. I was wrong all along. (Score: 1)
by Technophile on Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 07:49:15 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Chip, it takes a big man to admit so publicly that he was wrong. Your humble acknowledgement of past error does you proud.
Personally, I find that the worst part of all this is that with the new electricity glut, I'm having a hard time finding a market for all the excess energy my new Edison Device is putting out. |
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Re: Wow. I was wrong all along. (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 @ 00:39:18 UTC | Chip,
There is a pretty good chance that your pink HICEF powered Volvo and iGas powered toaster oven will roll out of AEC’s Oak Ridge Tennessee Product Development Centre in a few months instead of Boise, as I posted here a few months ago. Please stock up with some additional hats.
More details:
http://www.cleanwatts.com/newsroom.asp?id=newsroom.051704a |
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GWE and AEC (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 @ 07:49:11 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | Well there is no reason to wait for GWE products. According to their website, they have been making them since 2003-Aug, and selling them at least since 2004-March. That's months ago. They now say that their technology is in a broad variety of consumer products. I don't know why nobody who owns some of these products will tell us how they like them.
But AEC certainly has a story. With captains of industry like Igor Illitchev and William S. Dizenzo of Worth Construction behind them, how can they fail? |
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Re: GWE and AEC (Score: 1)
by MOTSB on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 @ 07:27:39 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | How is Igor and William connected to AEC or GWE?
I guess I did'nt get your drift on that. |
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Igor and William (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 @ 07:39:43 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | | AEC paid Igor approx 700k shares last July as a consultancy fee. At the time, that would have been a couple hundred k USD, so a fair chunk of change. Dizenzo is on their list of people they plan to add to their BOD. |
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Re: Igor- OEC - Press Release june 8 (Score: 1)
by MOTSB on Saturday, June 12, 2004 @ 11:51:40 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Exerpt:
ALTERNATE ENERGY CORP CONSORTIUM TO PRODUCE AFFORDABLE VEHICLE THAT OPERATES WITHOUT FOSSIL FUEL
LAS VEGAS - (BUSINESS WIRE) - Tuesday, June 8th, 2004 (OTCBB: ARGY - News)
Alternate Energy Corporation (“AEC”) announced today that they, together with Feel Good Cars Inc. (FGC) and others, intend to produce a prototype hydrogen powered internal combustion engine electric vehicle. Alternate Energy will retrofit a FGC’s ZENN™ (Zero Emissions No Noise) Urban Low Speed Electric Vehicle. The Company believes the resultant vehicle will demonstrate that a hydrogen powered car can be produced at a price affordable to middle income households.
Feel Good Cars intends to provide the platform and technical know-how relative to their Zenn™ electric technology. Alternate Energy intends to provide its proprietary, on board, hydrogen generator unit to produce on demand hydrogen that will power the car’s hybrid drive system. Alternate Energy anticipates that the project can provide an alternative to large electric vehicle battery systems and thereby eliminate the need to recharge via electricity produced from the burning of fossil fuels.
The objective is to demonstrate that the Feel Good Cars’ urban electric hybrid-drive low speed vehicle, powered by Alternate Energy’s on board proprietary hydrogen production system, can prove to be a viable alternative to the zero emission standards solution. The resulting system should enable FGC to produce affordable, non-polluting, mass market vehicles that do not require gasoline, natural gas, or other fossil fuels. The automobile can, in effect, produce power from water by virtue of Alternate Energy’s technology.
The working prototype intends to have Alternate Energy’s hydrogen system generate, on board hydrogen, that can power a small non polluting Internal Combustion Engine (“ICE”). This ICE can drive a newly developed alternator that can produce electricity to power the electric motor of the vehicle. In addition, the new alternator can be used to recharge the batteries that are simultaneously being used to power the electric propulsion motor of the vehicle. Anticipated key benefits of this system are low cost, no hazardous emissions, increased range and elimination of downtime attributed to recharging. Alternate Energy believes that the initial sales price of the vehicle should not be overburdened by the use of the new technology and that the operating fuel cost should be less than the existing cost of gasoline.
“With the exception of our hydrogen generation system, all of the technology involved in making this automobile a reality is already proven. As we know from our research and development findings, our on board hydrogen generation system can economically produce the required hydrogen. As well, by producing electricity while underway, the range of the vehicle can be greatly enhanced which overcomes the limited range problem associated with existing electric vehicles. That, coupled with an affordable, non-polluting, electrically powered automobile, can assist in reducing automobile emissions. It is the Company’s intention to have a demonstration vehicle this year.” said Blaine Froats, Chairman of Alternate Energy.
Alternate Energy’s development of this electrically powered vehicle is made possible by its recent acquisition of the rights to use the formulation in conjunction with a hydrogen powered ICE.
According to Wired Magazine (May 2004 issue), hybrid car sales are estimated to cross the 2% of all U.S. car sales threshold in 2008, with most domestic and foreign automotive manufacturers working on plans to launch their own hybrid models within a few years.
Pictures of the demonstration vehicle will be available at Alternate Energy’s corporate website, www.cleanwatts.com.
end of excerpt....
Well......Well ....Well Is everything coming to a chrushendo or is it just me? Isn't it strange how both GWE and OEC are neck to neck in this "Race to market the water cell generators?" Or is it a facade that gains symbiotically from both OEC's AND GWE's bold claims...Do they talk to each other, or have any other connections to each other?
Things that make you say HHHHMMMM.
Motsb
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 21:03:39 UTC | | If GWE is legit,then they should have registered with the state as a corporation. The physical address would be in that registration. Perhaps a call to the secretary of state's office could yield a real address. |
Registrations (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Monday, May 17, 2004 @ 22:00:41 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) http://freehydrogen.blogspot.com | GWE has been too busy filling all those orders, hiring all those people, paying all those dividends and funding all those charitable programs to deal with paying the government. Every time you see one of those pink HICEF powered Volvos on the highway, or see one of those iGas powered toaster ovens at Target, or Edson units at Lowes, you are seeing the reasons why they are too busy to pay taxes. The relevant registrations are:
GWE Technologies: Delaware, Registered 2003-September.
World Energy Management: Nevada, registered 2003-March, right after I pointed out that they hadn't filed anyplace. Now delinquent. Address used belongs to a webhosting company. Nevada sec of state is on-line so anyone can check.
United Fuel Cell Technologies (UFCT): Delaware, 2001-August. Never even paid the filing fee, let alone the taxes due for the shares sold.
General Systems: Nowhere. Doubt this ever was a business anyplace.
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Re: Registrations (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 @ 14:31:14 UTC | | That's definitely fishy. Looks like another free-energy scam, but their website looks good. :) |
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Re: Tactical to Practical -Sunday (Score: 1)
by MOTSB on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 @ 07:24:24 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Anybody watch Tactical to Practical Sunday? They did a segment on Fuel Cells and the military's use of Fuel Cell powered subs. They claimed that in the future, these subs will even get their energy from the very sea water itself! Thats the first time I've seen such a public claim from such public source.
Anybody know anything else about this? |
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Re: Tactical to Practical -Sunday (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 @ 08:00:28 UTC | | Of course, and companies like Alternate Energy Corp (www.cleanwatts.com) will be leading the way. |
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 1)
by Gordo on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 @ 15:26:30 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | Heh -- can't believe there are still a couple complete morons left (anonymous of course) that don't know a scam company what it's this obvious. Why all the hesitation about calling them liars, cheats, scammers, etc? Are you waiting for someone to punch you in the face and steal your wallet to make it more clear?
Don't go though life being a sucker. |
Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Thursday, May 20, 2004 @ 19:33:40 UTC | I am not a moron.
You and the other skeptical naysayers on this board are the true suckers. All of you have been sucked into the mindset that nothing new, revolutionary, and truly amazing can occur.
To all of you science has already discovered everything significant and we are basically doomed to utilizing our current primitive technology for all eternity.
I am NOT a sucker.
There is NO ONE on this forum that knows for sure if GWE is a scam. We do NOT know! You may say it is probable, and I might even give you that. But we do NOT know.
And if I do NOT know I will NOT call them names or bash them.
For example, if a fishy person came across the neiborhood selling a product I did not know would do what it was claimed then I would NOT call him a scam artist.
I would NOT invest or buy his product. But I would NOT call him a scam artist without knowing for SURE!
We do NOT know if GWE is telling the truth or not.
What we do know is that GWE needs to be investigated to determine if they are real or not. Because if they ARE scamming us then they are guilty of manipulating the hope and feelings of many, many people.
Let me see if this will make YOU happy.
Do NOT invest in GWE until they release more evidence that they are real.
Does that make you happy, sucker?
I am not a sucker, and YOU are the one that is going to go through life making assertions about other people when you do not know.
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Re: Genesis World Energy Website Update (Score: 1)
by Gordo on Monday, May 24, 2004 @ 11:01:18 UTC
(User Info | Send a Message) | zzzzzz..zzzzzzz...zzzzz
please man, get an education, read a book about cons and con artists. And ENDLESS string of future discoveries, inventions, and scientific wonders awaits us, I look forward to them with great anticipation. But they aren't going to come from time wasting, scumbag conmen. When are you going to realize that when someone claims to have produced a "free energy" contraption they won't need to try very hard to solicit investors, they won't need to hide everytime someone wants a demonstration, they won't be constantly missing deadlines and retracting previous statements, and they certainly won't be under investigation for fraud like Genesis World Energy.
Don't be an idiot.
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