Spin waves and the ZPE
Date: Monday, May 26, 2003 @ 03:07:34 UTC Topic: Science
"...Taking two magnets with the bubbles condition into them by a large EMP field (only works with certain magnets...) and placing a caduceus or bifilar coil between them along with a standard coil 90 degrees of the other. This is said to produce at least 1KW of ZPE...Also its said to be over unity (100%) and can be made to run on its own power after start...I'm leaving the rest up the other guys here...." (A very interesting discussion from the Sweet-VTA@yahoogroups.com)
--- In Sweet-VTA@yahoogroups.com, "(ALJ-1108) Consultant." wrote:
Hello All,
…But the topic here is ZPE (aka negative energy, aka Zero Point Energy). Let's put this into terms so that other can understand and use ZPE as a reference: ZPE (Zero Point Energy)....
Quantum mechanics claims the vacuum consist of fluctuating energy. Recent advances in the theories of the zero-point energy and nonlinear thermodynamics open the possibility of cohering this energy. THIS could be VERIFIED by REPEATABLY producing BALL LIGHTING in laboratory...MODERN PHYSICS may ALLOW the possibility of tapping energy directly out of the fabric of space.
In simple terms we been using magnets in a lot of stuff lately and most of the time the magnets were arranged North to South or Vise-versa. Now here comes a new kid on the block North-to-North or South-to-South also with a bubble on both magnets in one pole. Here this raises a lot of questions. Where as the wires connecting to the generator tends to turn cold with current flow. Now mind you that the wire is no longer used as a CONDUCTOR. IT IS USED AS AN WAVE GUIDE for very high frequency energy (aka ZPE)...This can been seen with a setup of two north to north and two south to south magnets with one caduceus coils between the each of them tied is series and spone around within the magnetic fields which products scalar current (a product of ZPE)...Now getting back to the two magnet thing (aka VTA). Imagine a bubble like the ones in a tub when you fart but instead inside a magnet and far less stinky. Taking two magnets with the bubbles condition into them by a large EMP field (only works with certain magnets...) and placing a caduceus or bifilar coil between them along with a standard coil 90 degrees of the other. This is said to produce at least 1KW of ZPE...Also its said to be over unity (100%) and can be made to run on its own power after start...I'm leaving the rest up the other guys here....
Cya
--- In Sweet-VTA@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Hey there,
Well, the account of 115 is very speculative in my mind--with no evidence of existence or stability (it HAS been created in an accelerator, but it was unstable). I don't see how the strong nuclear force has anything to do with gravity anyway. Unless it somehow produces enough EM radiation to equate with mass, I don't know how it would work. I also don't know how it would provide a repelling force either.
There IS something to the idea of using focused, unidirectional EM to produce a gravitational force on an object it's emitted from. Photons, unlike other particles, do not posses mass, so they can be emitted or "ejected" from something (say a lasing material in a laser) without reaction forces coming into play. But! due to E=mc^2 they produce a gravitational curvature on space time. So, if we had a powerful enough laser, it would be attracted to its own beam of photons--till the energy density in the lasing material (which is higher than the photon beam) bends the laser back onto the craft. This is the logic in the Unitel design, I believe, but I don't fully understand what they're doing. They plan to oscillate their lasing mirror in the fore section ("bow") of the craft. This "might" open up a worm hole, as moving boundaries can create negative energy density. But with all that laser power, I think it'll just smooth out the laser beam and send its positive energy into an unuseful limbo (if the problem of quantum inequality can be solved at all). My own idea of an interstellar drive would be similar, use a powerful laser to create gravitational forces, but would negate the oscillating lense in front, that would be counter productive in my view.
Anyways, negative energy density arises because of Heisenberg's uncertainty. That law provides for random oscillations even at absolute zero, where there exists non-thermal EM radiation from this "zero point" field. These EM oscillations can also dip into the negative space-time region, where there is an energy suction due to its different time polarization. But with every negative energy virtual photon that pops into existence, it is paired with a positive one that at least cancels it out. ZPE is not only positive energy, but some of this negative energy as well. The trick to make it do work.
There is some talk of nuclear spins producing negative energy somehow. I think that may be possible through superimposition of spin states, which is possible. That can only arise from two bucking magnetic fields, or a combination of e-fields and magnetic fields that align spins in 180 degree outphased ways. I currently do not have information on how e-fields align spin, but it recently was discovered to be possible by mainstream researchers. I also do not know how spins can possess two states at the same time according to a classical concept of spin. Maybe the particle simply ceases to generate a magnetic field and exists as an e-field only. Perhaps that would create inertial and gravitational effects if generated in sufficiently strong quantities?
Ball lightning is interesting. Shoulder's electrum validum, or EVs for short, may be a microscopic form of ball lightning that may use Casmir forces to remain coherent and increase energy density. There is supposedly a net gain in energy as well, but I'm unsure as to how this would be possible--except through Casmir forces creating more energy *density*. As for macroscopic ball lightning, I'm less sure of its ZPE tapping abilities, as it does not seem dense enough to evoke Casmir Forces, nor dense enough to cause pair production either. But maybe something else is going on that you might elaborate on!
The ZPE waveguided generator is very interesting, and was proposed by Moray King in one of his papers, called "Scalar Current." I'm very interested in creating a generator of this kind, and will someday I hope.
How are you so certain that magnetic bubbles are involved in the ZPE? These bubbles that you refer to, do they involve repulsing magnetic fields inside the magnets themselves? If so, I agree they may be involved in the VTA. If the plane of the magnets' ingrained repulsion fields were at 90 degrees to each other, then I believe that entanglement of the photons they emit and reflect from each other may occur. In which case, the spins of the photons would automatically change as a group, instantly across space and time. This, along with uncertainty principles, could provide an energy gain mechanism, negative energy aside.
Regards, Ed S.
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In Sweet-VTA@yahoogroups.com, "Trans-world" wrote:
Ed, when it comes to releasing negative energy from ZPE, it seems that negative electrons come first, and only after they lose their energy (through work or resistance), they turn into negative photons. And when those run into positive photons, they cancel each other and disappear back into the ZPE.
So ZPE may consist of pairs of interlocked negative and positive photons. And if that was so, then the VTA would somehow turn these two interlocked photons into negative electrons. And that would complete the negative energy circle. The only question would then be how two interlocked photons can be turned into a negative electron.
Jaro
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From: emscan81
To: Sweet-VTA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 11, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: [Sweet-VTA] Re: Spin waves in non-magnetic materials and explaining cold wires--specificatio
Jaro,
I don't agree with the mechanisms you propose here. Even normal electrons don't convert to photonic energy when they do work. Their encountering of resistance produces heat, which is a form of EM as you know. But the only way electrons are completely converted into EM energy is by encountering a positron.
The ZPE is a force of nature that produces spin procession, may be responsible for the electron's distance from the nucleus, may be responsible for inertia and gravity. BUT the ZPE in truth is not virtual electron-positron pairs or virtual photons, BUT THE SOURCE of those particle's temporary existence in our reality. There is something much bigger than coupled photons or e-p pairs. It is the "shake and bake" shaking of reality. The eternal "Om" vibration that brings into beingness out of voidness--if you want to look at it metaphysically. But everything is already "there" anyway, we just can't observe it.
Energy time-polarization can be done with a few of the following mainstream ways: a moving boundary (usually expressed as mirror), the Casmir Force, and via phase conjugation (which I suspect is similar to the first method). I'm still waiting for the opportunity to examine the details of the phase conjugation experiment that produced negative energy. The implementation of some of Bearden's idea about "scalar" electromagnetics may bring to light a method of creating abundant negative energy. He was right all along that phase conjugation leads to negative energy, so he's got more credibility in my mind these days.
There may be a loophole to the law of Quantum Inequality that allows for the creation of a greater amount of negative energy than positive. Finding this loophole, I believe, will be a stepping stone into understanding over-unity processes, if they truly exist.
Best Regards,
Ed Scanlan
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 01:18:16 -0700
From: "Trans-world"
Subject: Re: Re: Spin waves in non-magnetic materials and explaining cold wires
Ed,
you said "Even normal electrons don't convert to photonic energy when they do work. Their encountering of resistance produces heat, which is a form of EM..." Of course heat is a form of EM energy, but it is the part of EM spectrum called Infrared Radiation (IR), which consists of light spectrum, just outside of visible light frequencies. And what is light? PHOTONS!
So I was right when I said that when electrons lose some of their energy through work, they turn into photons. And of course negative electrons will therefore turn to negative photons.
Also, do you have any evidence that ZPE consists of more than interlocked positive and negative photons? I have just produced a theoretical evidence that positive and negative photons cancel out each other and thus re-enter the ZPE. So the ZPE should consist of at least the interlocked photon pairs.
Interestingly this also suggests that the law of conservation of energy DOESN'T APPLY when it comes to negative energy, UNLESS the negative energy which we have created out of nothing (like in the VTA), completes the circle by removing thermal energy out of the environment (negative photons cancel out positive ones).
So the negative photons HAVE TO cancel out the positive ones (observed as the cooling effects of cold electricity), because if they didn't, the law of conservation of energy would be violated. The net effect then is that negative energy produces work, but we "pay for it" with the heat being taken out. It basically converts heat to work with 100% efficiency. I mean, didn't the Sweet-VTA produce more cooling as the load was increased?
BTW, how do you suggest phase conjugation produces negative energy? I thought that Bearden said that it produces scalar waves.
Jaro
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