Chukanov's bona fides?
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2003 @ 00:46:03 UTC
Topic: General


This is typical for what happens with any new energy researcher who claims (s)he is professionally qualified and sincerely believes in what (s)he's doing. I see nothing wrong with WTH's approach. The bottom line: have a prototype that can pass the stringent tests required for such extraordinary claims and nothing else will matter!

Message from the yahoo free_energy forum:

Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:04:19 -0000
From: "wthwthwthwth"
Subject: Re: Chukanov's bona fides?

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 11:17 PM, Angelina Chukanov wrote:

>>Hello, Mister wthwthwthwth, I'm curious to know more about you.
I'm an electrical engineer. My interest in the areas of pseudoscience and pathological science began after I was hired to test a device promoted by Tom Bearden. The device failed miserably, and since then I've been fascinated by the delusional and/or fraudulent behavior that typically characterizes these sorts of inventions.


>>You criticized me too much (very unfairly) from distance.
What is unfair about my criticism? I have made two points in my previous messages:

(1) Despite your claims of a Ph.D. and faculty appointments at three different universities (one of them a full professorship at a Bulgarian university), and despite describing yourself as a "world authority on ball lightning", there is not a single peer-reviewed paper written by you that is listed in the INSPEC, ProQuest, or Compendex databases. Anyone can go to a library and verify that this is true.

(2) You are committing a fundamental scientific error in thinking that a comparison of the light generated by two entirely different physical processes (incandescent heating vs. high-voltage plasma excitation) can be used to estimate the power output of your plasma generator. Dr. Rhodes made the same point to you in his comments on Sterling Allan's web page. In his words: "You cannot compare power consumption of a light bulb from a filament with a glow discharge from
(a) capacitor, or microwave."


>>I'm not a charlatan, I spent so many years on this research which is finally successful. I would like you to come in my house and my lab for demonstrations and discussions.
I don't think you're a charlatan or a deliberate fraud. I do believe that you are deluding yourself, like so many free energy researchers before you. You have put so much of your life into your creations that you won't face the fact that you can't make them work after 17 years. I have no intention of traveling to Utah to see you in person, because I would never invest a dime in your invention based on your responses to my questions so far. It would be a waste of my time and yours.


>>I spent so much my money on this project, I sacrificed my career(my PhD is not "fake" as you told me), I sacrificed my health, my reputation(because all "free energy" researchers are considered by the official science as a crazy people), I sacrificed my family's comfort(no weekends, no vacations,...) and now, when I'm f ready to start business I lost my two jobs. At 59 years nobody wants to hire me even though on very low level job. Nobody cares about my diplomas, education and experience.
I never said your Ph.D. was fake. What I said was that any responsible investor would make a point of thoroughly investigating your background and confirming your educational and professional history before giving you $1M for your research, particularly since there is no record of your work in any mainstream peer-reviewed conference or journal anywhere in the world.

You claim to have written many papers and books. It would take a legitimate researcher (and in particular an ex-professor) very little effort to put together a vita and bibliography of his prior publications. So why don't you do it, instead of protesting how unfair people are being for asking about it?

And as for your work history, I have to agree with Professor Element who wondered why someone with your claimed credentials can't get any sort of employment related to science or engineering. I do know that most U.S. companies that hire engineers and scientists make a point of verifying the information on applicants' resumes. What is it about your background that makes you unemployable in the areas you claim to be an expert in?


>>I think many "free energy" researchers are like me.
That is unfortunately true. Many free energy researchers spend their lives in a vain attempt to make their dreams come true. The problem is that the laws of physics don't care about people's dreams and desires.


>>And because of that, it is extremely unfairly to humiliate those people - just for fun. I don't care too much about your "destructive" criticism from distance, I care more about all those free energy researchers who are unfairly criticized by people like you.
I'm not trying to humiliate anyone, and I don't think I'm being unfair. You are the one who claims to be a world authority on ball lightning and quantum physics. You are the one who is looking for investment money.

All I'm doing is legitimately pointing out inconsistencies in your background and claims. Instead of addressing them rationally, and providing specific evidence to prove your claims in this forum, you're either lashing out in anger or complaining how unfair life has been to you. As I've already said, anyone who is going to give you the money you need to build your commercial generator is going to be much more harsh and critical than I have been.

>>This forum must serve as a space for exchange of ideas, advices, support, help. I'm sure you are a good person and we can become friends. I'm saying that not because I'm afraid of your criticism, but because all we must be friends.
I have no desire to be your friend, but I have no desire to be your enemy, either. The scientific method isn't about being friends or enemies, it's about separating truth from fiction, and fact from fantasy.

Criticism of unusual claims is part of the scientific process. Anyone who makes a claim that violates the accepted laws of physics had better be prepared for lots of comments and criticism from others. Until you are willing to defend your claims with solid analysis, mathematics, and measurements, you are only making yourself look even worse.

WTH






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