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IF Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how was it done?

Hidden battery24 %24 %24 % 24.56% (14)
Microwave beam directed transmission24 %24 %24 % 24.56% (14)
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"IF Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how was it done?" | Login/Create an Account | 20 comments
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SEAS checked for induction coils (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Sunday, March 30, 2003 @ 22:10:21 EST
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From the transcript "There were no hidden power sources. As I said, it could be picked up and taken outside and put on the sidewalk, and there it ran! " They nearly eliminated almost any chance of power broadcast with coils they took it outside. The microwave idea is an interesting one, but, if the inventor was broadcasting microwaves with that much energy, wouldn't the whole neighborhood know about it? Maybe we can get a ham to comment on this. (Phil?) It's easier to disguise a battery than to broadcast power in any way.

Does anyone know when we expet to hear back from SEAS with their progress replicating the device or testing it in their own offices? They might answer this question before the poll ends.


Re: If Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Monday, March 31, 2003 @ 13:40:01 EST

I don't believe it's a scam. The device was tested by a team of smart folks, it there was any trace of a scam, Dr. Greer would not have shared the info.


Re: If Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how (Score: 1)
by Zypher on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 @ 17:30:38 EST
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If this is real, how many people here think SEAS can actually stick to their timeline of events (getting it out to the public)? I mean, if this thing is really extracting energy from the vaccum, wouldn't there have to be TONS of new research done to ensure that there are no ill consequences of doing so? After all - extracting ZPE may do some serious damage that we have no idea about....

I just don't think that "if the device works" that's enough to start mass-producing them. And I don't think all the necessary testing and research behind how this thing works can be done in a year or two...

Opinions?

-Ryan


Re: If Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how (Score: 1)
by vlad on Friday, April 04, 2003 @ 17:05:11 EST
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Dear readers,

I’m getting more or less angry/concerned mail from people under the false impression that I’ve already qualified Gr. Greer’s (SEAS) recently discovered device (apparently tapping the ZPE) as a scam. Nothing further from the truth! I apologize for this ambiguity in the new poll but please note that the question starts with an “IF…” (I made it in capitals now!:-). I’m not aware of any evidence to suggest that the device investigated was fraudulent in nature.

Some people said I should’ve included an option for “Don’t think it’s a scam”. My intention was to hear from those who BELIEVE it’s a scam and they think they know how it was done. I considered that we all could learn something from those who have the know-how on how to put/transmit that kind of power (apparently more than 500W) in such a relatively small and light device (which was also examined internally as stated by Dr. Greer in his interview). Unfortunately, as Ryan said, we don’t know for how long the team tested the device to calculate the amount of energy it delivered during that initial site test.

Of course the only methods that I know of that might do the trick were listed in the poll’s options. I also know from SEAS’ “Checklist for Testing O/U Devices” guide that they should have been very much aware of these procedures, that can be easily tested and eliminated as possible sources of energy. I was/am hoping that by clicking on “Other (please elaborate)” option we’ll learn other possible tricks…but it seems no "other" method was identified so far (there have been no explicit comments about that).

I’m almost convinced Dr. Greer and his team are not in the business of fooling the public to get money/publicity(?) out of it (as many skeptics say they are). But they’re not immune to scams either. This poll wants to give the chance to those supporting the scam hypothesis to explain us how this could have been done. If we don’t get any other smart methods (except those listed) I would strongly lean towards the "device is genuine" possibility. Please distribute this question to whatever people/forums, etc., you think might have an interesting explanation and post the answer here. Thank you.

Vlad


Re: IF Dr. Greer's recently discovered device is a scam, how (Score: 0)
by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 @ 12:04:38 EDT

It is done like all other things in the daily life :
With the Power of Imagination substituted by a believable Modell of the Universe.

Believe Systems are the Path for the Power of the Mind to Flow into that what we call "Reality".

Tom Bearden and all his Friends may be the best Scientist that are currently avaible for Mankind.

Let our Dreams of Paradise come true, where Technology, Nature and the Human Spirit are in perfect Harmony.

Michael Hoffmann, Germany
webmaster@unisolar.de




The device is not going to be tested (Score: 1)
by chipotle_pickle on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 @ 19:45:11 EDT
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SEAS has announced that the "inventor" is "unable" to allow SEAS to test his device in a controlled environment, because of previously undisclosed contracts, with various unnamed parties in multiple countries.

Maybe next time SEAS can wait till they have actually tested something in their own lab, office or garage before they make an announcement? PMM claimants are easy enough to find; that's not news. It would be news if one of their machines were to work when taken home.


 

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